Dodge City Police Officer a Suspect for Murder!

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by dawgman

It's a little easier to treat the suspect as more of a suspect again, when the victim can identify the suspect or do you not understand that point???

A suspect is a suspect, no matter whether the victim can identify them or not, or do you not understand that point???

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by dawgman

You sure know a lot for someone who sits back and posts at work. If you know so much, enlighten us. By the way, how is that "bomb" have you checked it lately? It seems you have been spending a lot of your time criticizing the way others do their jobs, so maybe you should get back to work. Remember the whole world (sarcasm!!) depends on YOU!!!

I'm not at work, so that just shows how smart you are!

[dawgman]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Maybe you need to go back and reread the news article! Especially this part...

"After investigating, troopers discovered Tahah is a suspect in a homicide investigation being conducted by Dodge City authorities in Kansas."

Last time I checked, the KBI weren't Dodge City authorities. Also, I agree with wordsmythe, that police officers should be held to a higher standard. After all, when they accept the job and put on the uniform, they are no longer representing just themselves, they are representing all law enforcement and the city which employs them.

You're right, we hsould believe EVERYTHING the press says, they are so accurate and dependable on information, you must work right along side them with your LACK of knowledge.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by dawgman

You're right, we hsould believe EVERYTHING the press says, they are so accurate and dependable on information, you must work right along side them with your LACK of knowledge.

Aaahhhh, you're just mad because I pointed out how while you were bragging about your intelligence, that you don't have the intelligence to spell intelligent. No need to reply to this as you are now on my ignore list, so I won't see what you post. You bore me, and you are making this to easy for me. Also, I am tired so I am going to bed.

[jeezeweeze]

I am pro cop also and pro military

Bronco is correct...until we have programmable cops and military the HU factor will be there.

Having worked in law enforcement I can tell you the officers are as shocked by this as civilians .

It gives them a BIG black eye and God knows they don't deserve that, but you can bet, it will be thrown in their faces until this is resolved and forgotten.

Every organization that I have ever worked for has its people that find it hard to control their emotional side...unfortunately some of them take it way passed the limit and someone gets killed

When that happens he/she will have to suffer the consequences ... the whole department will suffer also ....

Cops and military...... what a thankless job they have

[Army_of_One]

Wow, this thread went south in a hurry. Dawg, I'm sure there are ways to make your points without the insults and personal attacks on Bubba. When you start attacking people like a rabid animal you lose credibility. The bottom line is that POLICE are held to a higher standard because they wear a uniform and represent the CITY OF DODGE, just like the military. (as Wordy stated)When those looters from Fort Riley looted Greensburg they gave the Army a black eye because that is who they represent. If a police officer drives while on his/her cell, tosses a cig butt out the window or is seen sitting somewhere we think he shouldn't be then people notice...and he represents the city. It's different than if an avg citizen was doing it because the Police Officer is being paid by Joe Citizen and is constantly in the spotlight... Having said that this guy is a murder suspect and police officer or not as citizens we have the right to know if there is a murder suspect running around loose. If he DID kill the woman then he is a piece of shit and should pay for it. This guy is supposed to be enforcing our laws not breaking them...

[dustinwadams5]

I agree with bubba here. I don't think every cop in Dodge is bad because of what one might have done. But I think a little info was withheld in this case. Maybe they were just trying not to let it tarnish their name until it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, but it still should have been public knowledge.

[Tee]

Originally Posted by jeezeweeze

It gives them a BIG black eye and God knows they don't deserve that, but you can bet, it will be thrown in their faces until this is resolved and forgotten.

What's giving them a black eye is this lack of info coming out from our officials on a murder case. Now we can pass the back by saying this office is handling it, or that office is responsible for disseminating information to the public, but that does not change the fact that the only information we are getting is coming from other state agencies.

The democrats established the freedom of information act in 1974 in the midst of the Watergate scandal. The purpose of it was to empower the citizens to police our officials. We have a right to question what goes on at the police department, in fact it's our duty. To promote the idea that they are to conduct themselves behind the scens without checks, without public scrutiny, is arrogant and contrary to the spirit of the first amendment and the bill of rights.

Many of you have pushed the "low pay, little thanks" argument. Well, I am pretty sure the cops on our force knew what they were signing onto before they submitted their application, yet they still did. Compensation is free market driven, if the cops complaining don't want to do it, that's fine, there will be someone else waiting to take your job. Last time I looked at the median income for high school graduates, 30k was a much higher than average starting point.

I am not trying to rag on the cops but you two that have come to rally to their cause have forgotten what it's like to be a non-cop, a normal citizen. We don't enjoy the benefits of inside information, immunity from tickets and special treatment in the court/legal system.

I think many of us are pretty sure that had this been Jose Buneulo or Manuel Burrito, his name and some details would be out in the news already, the local news. Don't tell me this is par for the course..Or maybe we should ask Roger Valadez in Wichita?

When it's done to us, it's simply an error:

The police made an error in holding Valadez on misdemeanor charges, to test his DNA as a BTK suspect, and then reporting this baseless suspicion to KSN.

His name was released with a couple of hours of being detained.

It's been rumored that this person had a previous history of sexual harassment complaints- if this is true and it was swept under the rug, you bet the DCPD deserves a black eye for keeping him on the force and arming him with a gun. Even CC applicants must be free from a history of domestic violence, and a vigorous background check is performed to ensure that.

I am not bashing cops - I believe in equality for cops and civilians alike. Don't defend the premise that cop-cases should be handled differently, with respect to press coverage and the justice system.

[macdaddy]

I hope everyone will leave bubba alone, he does make some good logical sense i guess. We JOE PUBLIC deserve to know everything!! when it happens.

I think every person that is suspected of a crime should have their picture posted on large billboards throughout the city so everyone knows who the bad people are. DUIs, Sexual predators, gang bangers, thieves, people who write bad checks, speeders, all the illegals everyone!! It doesn't matter if they are guilty post every picture up so we can all see then and protect ourselves. Hell most of us carry guns anyway. Write it up on the front page of the paper also. I don't really see the need to differentiate guilty or innocent. Post them all. Throw out the Constitution and all that crap! No more miranda readings. Just go arrest everyone suspected and let the public know who they are!!!

[dustinwadams5]

Oh yea because speeding tickets, bad checks, and all those things you just listed are just as bad a crime as possible murder. All bubba is saying is that the info should have been released because if he did commit this murder we need to know who he is so that we can be on the look out and protect ourselves.