Dodge City Police Officer a Suspect for Murder!

[TexKan]

Who said he was guilty?????

He may have been racked with grief over the death - he may have just been the last to see her alive. Ya'll are pushin this fella infront of the train - would you want the same treatment? probably not. Wait till the charges are brought................. right now he's a car thief

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by Tee

....I am pretty sure that, whenever you are on the run from the cops for suspected murder, you pose an extremely heightened risk to the community. Look what he did to attempt to elude them. He was in a heightened state of passion and endangerment to the community. Who's to say that if he had the opportunity, he might have taken a hostage at the point of confrontation. He's definitely more likely to do that than someone who is innocent or a mistaken identity. That's a given.

Originally Posted by K C Muffin

I see your point, Tee, but, if this is all correct, he did his crime in a heightened state of emotion. I don't imagine he's still in that state. I dunno - that's my opinion and I don't have anything to back it. Just my feeling.

I’ve got to go with Tee on this, you really don’t know what the guy might do. The trouble with releasing information has been pointed out, dodging all the legal loopholes and pitfalls. What ever the cops do is going to get someone out of joint one way or another.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by K C Muffin

... but don't think he was a public safety problem either. If guilty, the guy offed his girlfriend for whatever wrong he thinks she did. That doesn't mean he's going to go postal....

You really don't think he was a public safety problem? He was stopped 2 or 3 separate times during the police chase, and each time he refused to leave the vehicle and sped off for them to chase again. They had to put out spike strips 2 or 3 times also. At one point he crossed the median on I-70 and was traveling in the wrong lanes. If that isn't a public safety problem, I don't know what is.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by TexKan

Who said he was guilty?????

He may have been racked with grief over the death - he may have just been the last to see her alive. Ya'll are pushin this fella infront of the train - would you want the same treatment? probably not. Wait till the charges are brought................. right now he's a car thief

I don't recall anybody saying he was guilty. My point was that he was wanted for suspicion of murder and had evaded detection and the local citizens were not informed that he was on the loose. No crimestoppers release, nothing.

[grlddg]

Originally Posted by K C Muffin

I don't necessarily agree with protecting him, but don't think he was a public safety problem either. If guilty, the guy offed his girlfriend for whatever wrong he thinks she did. That doesn't mean he's going to go postal. He's a police officer, so you know they had to do some mental tests and have some idea that if he committed this crime, he's not going to turn around and kill a bunch of others or walk into a bar and start shooting. It was personal and it's finished.

Who can really account to somebody's mental status after possibly committing a murder? He's obviously not sane to steal a vehicle, run from cops. Who knows what else he could have done. I still think that Dodge had a right to know that this suspect is on the loose. Where are the be on the lookout warnings? Anybody that can murder one, can murder more. Right now, he has nothing to lose, and that's the most dangerous kind of person. But the public doesn't even know about this! Unless they frequent DodgeBoard.

[WizardofOz]

In regards to the car chase, it was police officers that chased him down and caught him. It is police officers that are putting in the work to possibly charge him for homicide if it is warranted. The release of information especially in homicide cases has to be carefully controlled and everyone involved with the case has to really watch what they say. If you look at the whole mess with the Duke Lacrosse player investigation. The lead prosecutor started feeding the citizens appetite for information prior to even getting into the court room. The information was full of accusations and misleading information. When the DNA testing started to show the allegations had no merit, the case went in the toilet. Now that prosecutor is being sued, losing his career, losing his license to practice, and basically made into an outcast. Defense attorneys get to have all the time they want in the media to explain their cases and taint potential jury members unless a gag order is in place. Prosecutors and police don't get the luxury to say what they want because the defense will argue the comments will prejudice the jury pool and can have the case moved somewhere else, evidence becomes suppressed, and witnesses can get roasted on the stand. The only two people that know what happened in this murder is the victim and the suspect. Unfortunately the victim can never tell her side of what happened so the state has to speak for her and see that justice is done.

Information is only as valuable as the ones with the cameras and broadcasting abilities, which is the media. Their desire to pick a case or subject is entirely their whim. Can anyone argue that if the media gives biased information against a person not convicted of a crime that it will affect our decisions? Why and how they choose what to report is beyond me. If anyone can flashback to the time of the Carr brothers trial, do you remember what the national media was fascinated with? It wasn't about two men that committed several acts of murder, rape, or robbery....it was about freakin Winona Ryder's shoplifting trial which ended in her prosecution and receiving probation. The Carr brother's trial was a capital murder case with the death penalty.

If someone commits a criminal act in Dodge in which I or anyone else is a victim, I will call the DCPD. If they ask for my help with anything, I will be more than happy. I will not question the integrity of the officers because of the alleged acts of an individual. If the red army happens to parachute into Dodge in the middle of the night, I will call the military regardless of what some soldiers did in Greensburg.

[macdaddy]

grlddg, Don't kid yourself, about nobody knowing about it unless they are on here. Hell the day it happened I was told about it at least 10 times and I have to admit two of those people knew an alfull lot about this case. It seems that a lot of people on DCBoards know a lot about this case as well. and they didn't just learn about it.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by WizardofOz

In regards to the car chase, it was police officers that chased him down and caught him. It is police officers that are putting in the work to possibly charge him for homicide if it is warranted. The release of information especially in homicide cases has to be carefully controlled and everyone involved with the case has to really watch what they say. If you look at the whole mess with the Duke Lacrosse player investigation. The lead prosecutor started feeding the citizens appetite for information prior to even getting into the court room. The information was full of accusations and misleading information. When the DNA testing started to show the allegations had no merit, the case went in the toilet. Now that prosecutor is being sued, losing his career, losing his license to practice, and basically made into an outcast. Defense attorneys get to have all the time they want in the media to explain their cases and taint potential jury members unless a gag order is in place. Prosecutors and police don't get the luxury to say what they want because the defense will argue the comments will prejudice the jury pool and can have the case moved somewhere else, evidence becomes suppressed, and witnesses can get roasted on the stand. The only two people that know what happened in this murder is the victim and the suspect. Unfortunately the victim can never tell her side of what happened so the state has to speak for her and see that justice is done.

Information is only as valuable as the ones with the cameras and broadcasting abilities, which is the media. Their desire to pick a case or subject is entirely their whim. Can anyone argue that if the media gives biased information against a person not convicted of a crime that it will affect our decisions? Why and how they choose what to report is beyond me. If anyone can flashback to the time of the Carr brothers trial, do you remember what the national media was fascinated with? It wasn't about two men that committed several acts of murder, rape, or robbery....it was about freakin Winona Ryder's shoplifting trial which ended in her prosecution and receiving probation. The Carr brother's trial was a capital murder case with the death penalty.

If someone commits a criminal act in Dodge in which I or anyone else is a victim, I will call the DCPD. If they ask for my help with anything, I will be more than happy. I will not question the integrity of the officers because of the alleged acts of an individual. If the red army happens to parachute into Dodge in the middle of the night, I will call the military regardless of what some soldiers did in Greensburg.

I don't think you are getting it. I don't have a problem with the officers in Dodge City, or at least the majority of them. I have a problem with the "brass" that decided it wasn't in the public's best interest to know anything. I'm not asking for all the details, or forensic reports, or autopsy reports. But, a simple "this person is wanted for questioning and his whereabouts are unknown" was definitely warranted in this situation.

[pootsy]

You tell em Bubba! Can't ya all get it??? There was a alledged homicide suspect on the loose....what the hell???

[grlddg]

Originally Posted by macdaddy

grlddg, Don't kid yourself, about nobody knowing about it unless they are on here. Hell the day it happened I was told about it at least 10 times and I have to admit two of those people knew an alfull lot about this case. It seems that a lot of people on DCBoards know a lot about this case as well. and they didn't just learn about it.

I was just being sarcastic/kidding. Everybody on here seems to know a lot, and I'm sure that a lot of the general public doesn't know many details about it. I haven't really heard many people out on the streets talking about it, it seems like I have more information from being on here than they do. And for the Globe not reporting anything; I'm sure that doesn't help. I don't get a subscription to Colorado newspapers for Dodge City information.