Clinton, Obama vote 'no' on Iraq bill

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

One might say they cut and run…..

Maybe the "majority of the majority" ain’t thinking what you think they’re thinking. Then again, depending on how the numbers fall out, the “majority of the majority” could end up being the minority.

More like they are afraid of the Right Wing propoganda machine they've seen in action.

[Highwayman]

You say that like there is no such thing as a Left Wing propaganda machine.

More likely they’re afraid of the voters. Democrats hold the Senate by a majority of one. The house would have been lost by about 40,000 votes in certain select districts. That’s hardly a landslide and not enough to claim a mandate like they do.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by JayhawkMom

Geez AOO, gimme a break.............Let me tell ya ......as someone who started working for MINIMUM wage, my employer didn't increase my pay UNLESS the minimum wage went up.....so don't tell me who benefits and who doesn't...........typical conservative; screw everyone else as long as YOU'RE making money...............GD, we want people off of welfare and yet you expect them to make it on 5.15 an hour.......Jesus, 7 bucks isn't shit either, and you're trying to tell me THAT'S gunna hurt a small business? I thought you and I could at least agree that no one can make it in this country on 5.15/hr............I challenge you to try it Army.......without your parents helping you out...............

I worked for minimum wage when I was 17 and also worked for minimum wage at Hardee's when I was in college. Obviously you didn't read the statistics of WHO makes minimum wage or you wouldn't be typing what you just did. It's not typical conservatism either. The min wage should be market driven. Nevermind.......

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

One might say they cut and run…..

Maybe the "majority of the majority" ain’t thinking what you think they’re thinking. Then again, depending on how the numbers fall out, the “majority of the majority” could end up being the minority.

There are three groups that want us out of Iraq....Iran, Al Qaeda and the Democrats....all three hate America.....

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by wordsmythe

It kills me that you are so against the minimum wage increase yet you have no problem with the big oil companies charging record prices by shutting down refineries just before peak driving season and by all the mergers in the industry.

This drives the price of EVERYTHING up much more quickly than a higher minimum wage ever will.

So you think all the oil companies shut down their refineries on purpose to make more money? Perhaps you could talk to some of your liberal friends that make it next to impossible for oil companies to build more refineries and see what you can do about that situation.

[jeezeweeze]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

There are three groups that want us out of Iraq....Iran, Al Qaeda and the Democrats....all three hate America.....

AOO

I cannot believe you made that statement...it may have been cause it was so early in the am...

You do realize that a Democrat could be YOUR boss soon.... then what ...are you gonna retire.. cause you hate democrats so much...???

See this is what I see as a problem.... its all about mud slinging...and not trying to reach a common goal.... which Kennedy said so well......"ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU...ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY"
My daughter taught me a new word yesterday...I had never heard it before... and I think it fits what is going on in our country....the word is Oligarchy, I will just let you look it up like I had to....
I'm thinking when did this all happen , when did it start, what can we do to fix it...??
It started from the beginning of our so called democracy... and it will never be fixed...cause thats how it is everywhere....THE GOLDEN RULE....
he who has the gold ....rules.... so.... us common folk are here to feed the beast when he roars....

Also Aoo.... the remark you made somewhere on one of the posts ...about WWII...sorta comparing it...... to this war we are in now.... PALEEEEEEZE...
The only thing remotely akin to that war.....is deployment of our troops...
One HUGE difference....WE WON THAT WAR.....and how did we win a WORLD WAR....think about it.....

Also , those little degrading remarks you are so free to throw is unbecoming a member of the UNITED STATES MILITARY....(ie.... PIE HOLE....)that is sooooooooooo not necessary



OVER and OUT..... sock it to me

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by jeezeweeze

AOO

I cannot believe you made that statement...it may have been cause it was so early in the am... First of all just because it was early doesn't mean I didn't have my faculties about me...

You do realize that a Democrat could be YOUR boss soon.... then what ...are you gonna retire.. cause you hate democrats so much...??? I have been in the military for 20 years and have served under a Democrat....we (soldiers and our families) got the minimum pay raise allowed by law almost every year Klinton was in office. During his tenure there were times we had to go train with no rounds to shoot because he cut the military budget...yeah I know what it's like and that's ONE of the MANY reasons I oppose a Democratic President..and yes if Hillary wins I may retire..

See this is what I see as a problem.... its all about mud slinging...and not trying to reach a common goal.... which Kennedy said so well......"ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU...ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY" I agree...the JFK Democratic party is LONG GONE...it's now the party of Michael Moore and George Soros. The Dem Party has moved wayyyy left. If more people would do for their country than letting them country do for them we would have more republicans...The people that let their country do for them...typically vote Democrat...funny huh?
My daughter taught me a new word yesterday...I had never heard it before... and I think it fits what is going on in our country....the word is Oligarchy, I will just let you look it up like I had to....I know what it means...no need to look it up...and no it doesn't fit...
I'm thinking when did this all happen , when did it start, what can we do to fix it...??

Also , those little degrading remarks you are so free to throw is unbecoming a member of the UNITED STATES MILITARY....(ie.... PIE HOLE....)that is sooooooooooo not necessary Pie hole is not a degrading remark...it was typed to be funny...not mean...



OVER and OUT..... sock it to me

No need to "sock it to you"....you do that to yourself...

[jeezeweeze]

Maybe I used the wrong word....could be Plutocracy
This from WIKI


Plutocracy-Forms of Control

A Plutocracy is a government controlled by that miniscule percentage of extremely wealthy individuals found in most societies. In many forms of government, those in power benefit financially, sometimes enough to belong to the aforementioned wealthy class. This gives rise to the theory that any governmental system can, and will eventually progress, or descend, to a plutocratic state given enough time and resources.

Classically, a plutocracy was an oligarchy, which is to say a government controlled by the wealthy few. Usually this meant that these ‘plutocrats’ controlled not only the executive, legislative and judicial aspects of government, but also most of the natural resources, including the armed forces. To a certain degree, there are still some situations in which private corporations and wealthy individuals may exert such strong influence on governments, that the effect can arguably be compared to a plutocracy.



OIL COMPANIES AND HALIBURTON, possibly CHINAMART.... perhaps...???

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

So you think all the oil companies shut down their refineries on purpose to make more money? Perhaps you could talk to some of your liberal friends that make it next to impossible for oil companies to build more refineries and see what you can do about that situation.

Maybe they can choose a better time to shut those down for "routine" maintenance. Dead of winter when they need to run less anyway.

It's a scam to gouge and it's time for anti trust laws to kick in and break the monopoly up.

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by jeezeweeze

....OIL COMPANIES AND HALIBURTON, possibly CHINAMART.... perhaps...???

If oil companies really had any real political muscle they would be drilling wells all over the place and building new refineries. Gas would be cheap and oil companies would make more money because of increased volume and exports.

If you’re worried about big money controlling the government, take a hard look at what’s going on with George Soros and the Democrats.