Clinton, Obama vote 'no' on Iraq bill

[jeezeweeze]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

I'm not comparing wars just the amount of casualties we take now days. While every life is important we are fighting smarter and with better equipment than ever (despite what JW thinks...) JW thinks you are right .... we have the best equipment that money can buy.....problem is ..... most of the damage being done to our troops is by those ......itty bitty low tech I E D's and those silly silly REDNECK uneducated suicide bombers that are going to heaven to be with Allah.... The bottom line is we are in a war on Terror and terrorist. Everybody stand up cause Georgie Bush is IN THA HOUSE... We can quit now and walk away or we can keep plugging away.WELL...lets see now.. how bout our troops pull 10 tours of duty hummmmmmm no better idea....Lets have them stay til they start drawing their social security.... This war will last for years...you got that right ...(see 10 tours of duty or 20 )Unless of course new recruits start beating your door down...hows that working for you ?and if you think that if we pull out of iraq we are finished fighting...think again. No you are absolutely right .... cause right now we are probably getting ready to show Iran a thing or two...AND ...dont forget ... China is rattling their Sabers but its ok...cause according to the LYING MEDIA... the Navy and Air Force just are not that busy ........But wait.....that can't be right.... OUR FREE PRESS ARE ALL IN CAHOOTS TOGETHER.. One day you might be fighting for your life right here on your soil...yep.... with Mexico.....oh dang ....thats a lie too....we dont have an Immigration problem....ITS ALL THE LYING MEDIA...then you will say...wish we had kept fighting when we had the chance..No .... we will be saying "Where have all our young men gone"...

AOO ... I dont want to battle with you.. I know we have the bravest and the best ....We had the bravest and the best in all the wars we have fought...

I dont know which of our founding fathers said something to the effect(Im too tired right now to look it up) ... If we don't question our governments decisions..then we don't deserve to have a nation....thats not even close to the statement ... but best I can do for now...
There has to be checks and balances ..... and questions asked ...because there is so much smoke blown up our asses ....
DON'T TAKE IT SO PERSONAL.... ITS NOT ABOUT THE TROOPS...

[Bubba]

The "War on Terror" is just a political bumper sticker phrase. The main reason there is a problem in the Middle East, is because WE are there. Yes, we got rid of Sadaam, and yes he was a bad man, but they have been fighting with each other for eons, and maybe, they needed a bad man in power to keep them under control.

I can only hope that the "War on Terror" goes better than the other bumper sticker war we have been fighting for has gone, you know the one...the "War on Drugs." We've been fighting that ever since Nixon declared the drug problem a "national emergency" in 1971. We all know how well the "War on Drugs" went/is going.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Bubba

The "War on Terror" is just a political bumper sticker phrase. The main reason there is a problem in the Middle East, is because WE are there. Yes, we got rid of Sadaam, and yes he was a bad man, but they have been fighting with each other for eons, and maybe, they needed a bad man in power to keep them under control.

I can only hope that the "War on Terror" goes better than the other bumper sticker war we have been fighting for has gone, you know the one...the "War on Drugs." We've been fighting that ever since Nixon declared the drug problem a "national emergency" in 1971. We all know how well the "War on Drugs" went/is going.

So you think WE are the problem bubba? Do you think if we leave all will be well..? Do you think the Jihadist and extremest that hate America so much will just throw down their weapons and drink tea? What do you think?

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by Bubba

The "War on Terror" is just a political bumper sticker phrase......

Sounds like something John Edwards said….

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[Bubba]

You have to realize that the Jihadist hates us because we are in "His" land. Namely Saudi Arabia, that is the sacred land of Mecca, and we are desecrating their sacred places by being there. I'm not saying it would end overnight, there would be their civil war clashes that would continue, but us leaving the area and minding our own business at home to make sure our affairs are in order would go a long way in gaining some respect around the world that we started to lose, to a small extent, when George HW Bush first sent us to Saudi Arabia to invade Iraq but is sorely lacking ever since GW Bush took office. GW has alienated most of the world from America.

Let's not forget that it was the US foreign policy of the past that put us into the situations that we have today, maybe not intentionally, but those past foreign policy decisions had consequences that put us where we are today. First, we back putting the Shaw into power in Iran, now look at what Iran thinks of us. We also backed and supported Sadaam with cash weapons and training when they were at war with Iran, and we know how that ended. Let's not forget that we liked and advised Osama Bin Laden when his fighters were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan, but things turned south with him when we went into Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf war.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

Sounds like something John Edwards said….

I don't know that much about him, but maybe it shows that people underestimate his intelligence.

[TexKan]

that's just pathetic - the tape - not the conversation

[jeezeweeze]

I watched Ron Paul (R) on Bill Maher (stanch D)... I'm thinking I have some more homework ....I liked him.... this link is interesting..
Please dont get upset....I am just trying my best to find someone to vote for....and it aint easy

Ron Paul 2008

[TexKan]

I respect you freedom to vote for whoever you want and applaud you for doin some lookin rather than votin party. I don't know much bout Paul - I remember he looked kinda dorky on the debate - but that isn't everything - thanks for the link! I know he's from here - but he's not apparently well known in my circles.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by jeezeweeze

I watched Ron Paul (R) on Bill Maher (stanch D)... I'm thinking I have some more homework ....I liked him.... this link is interesting..
Please dont get upset....I am just trying my best to find someone to vote for....and it aint easy

Ron Paul 2008

I too saw him on Bill Maher, and was quite surprised to see the welcome he received with applause and cheers, Bill's audience is usually not that receptive to Republicans. Thanks for the link to Dr. Paul's website. I found this clip there about Educating Rudy Guiliani.

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