You maketh...and Hillary taketh...

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by jeezeweeze

Its not rocket science...not that hard to figure out...
Thanks for another opportunity at the verbal Judo.... I love it

Oil refineries are running at capacity and if one has to go down for any reason it effects the oil mkt. Read the news. Do a google search for oil refinery under news and see what you find. Also oil companies cannot build any new refineries...do you know WHY?

P.S. This is not verbal Judo in my opinion...just exchanging ideas...

[jeezeweeze]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

But the illegal immigrants are coming HERE...we are not shipping the jobs to them...lol

You are absolutely right...and thinking about it.... they do have more bennies than most Americans...so therefore I retract my post.....

As for the refineries ... I know why they don't build more....we are trying to get away from dependence on foreign oil..and hopefully we can...

OH hell......Im going to bed ....Im getting a headache...

nighty nighty.....

[Highwayman]

We haven’t built any new refineries in over 30 years because of environmental regulations.

We are drilling some new wells but not enough because of environmental regulations.

Those two things create high paying jobs for American citizens but since that work is going overseas so go those jobs.

[lurker]

Everybody gets what they deserve if they want to curtail oil production and refining..... It's too bad CONgress decided that we must also ride on their wave.

[SGT T.]

Originally Posted by Bubba

You leave out a lot of details in your history lesson, like that America advised and supplied arms and ammo to Bin Laden and his group as they fought with Russia. So, in your reference to that history lesson, how is what we did in supplying money, military tacticians, and weaponry to them any different to Iran supplying the same to the insurgents that are now fighting us?

It boiled down to that most of the world thought that Russia shouldn't be involved in that war in Afghanistan, just like most of the world thinks that we shouldn't be involved in Iraq.

This conflict in Iraq will never be "won." It might possibly be brought to manageable levels, but I'm not real sure about that. As long as we are there there will be insurgents that are determined to fight with us as an invading and occupying nation in that country.

Bubba,
You are missing the point. You are correct that we supplied the insurgents with weapons and training, but the point was that we run the very real risk of turning this place into another Afghanistan. The Soviets left that country without the means to police itself. The same will happen here, if we pull out too soon.

It can be won. Victory means setting this Gov't up so it CAN police itself. We're working on it, but it takes time. Alot of time. I can report that we are doing very well at removing key leaders of bad guy organizations, and that training is being conducted with the Iraqi Security Forces. In most cases, the Iraqi Army in our sector has the ability to conduct "stand alone" operations. We are still working as advisors here, because there is always room for improvment. The stronger they are, the sooner we can get outta Iraq for good.

BTW, you should have seen what the Soviets did to Afghanistan. The Taliban was not much better.

[Highwayman]

7 out of 18 provinces now have responsibility for their own security since US forces handed over the three northern provinces to the Kurdish regional government last week.

It was all over the news wasn’t it?

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

7 out of 18 provinces now have responsibility for their own security since US forces handed over the three northern provinces to the Kurdish regional government last week.

It was all over the news wasn’t it?

Not any news you get nationally.....But some will say the media isn't Liberal or bias. All you here is that the surge isn't working...yadda yadda yadda.......
This is news that could be and should be reported. If the media wanted to there is a lot of good things happening in Iraq they could do stories on but they just don't. They want to talk about bodies, bullets and bombs...

[jeezeweeze]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

We haven’t built any new refineries in over 30 years because of environmental regulations.

We are drilling some new wells but not enough because of environmental regulations.

Those two things create high paying jobs for American citizens but since that work is going overseas so go those jobs.

Sorry..
Going back to the oil business... so what your saying Highway is the environmental issues with the refining of.....not so much the discovery of...
I'm just wondering ...what the difference is in refining our own oil as opposed to refining middle east oil or any oil from overseas...Not trying to be a SA....I really don't understand..
I know Ky has strict environmental laws...

RIGZONE - Discoveries Articles
RIGZONE - Rick-Rod Hits Pay in Kentucky

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by jeezeweeze

...I'm just wondering ...what the difference is in refining our own oil as opposed to refining middle east oil or any oil from overseas...

Here’s a link that I found on the RIGZONE site that explains the refinery problem better than I can.

DownstreamToday.com - The Answer to America's Refinery Shortage: Imported Gasoline

[jeezeweeze]

Thanks Hwy

I really had no idea re/ refineries being outsourced ....til you mentioned it and when I posted those pages I didn't research all of the links...headache from hell...

I still have a rip-roaring headache.....hope its not the cat food.....