Reproductive Rights for Men...

[wordsmythe]

Yeah I gotta say if you aren't paying support you should only see the child if the other parent lets you and only as their schedule dictates.

If you don't like it, pay your child support.

[JayhawkMom]

Nice Avitar there Wordy...........

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by JayhawkMom

Nice Avitar there Wordy...........

Three of my favorite things.

Happy Independence Day!

[JayhawkMom]

Originally Posted by wordsmythe

Three of my favorite things.

Happy Independence Day!

LMAO! Back at ya!

[TigerEyes]

Originally Posted by wordsmythe

Three of my favorite things.

Happy Independence Day!

Ummm.... the American flag, the ability to bounce, and... what else?!

[Lone Gunman]

Originally Posted by TigerEyes

Ummm.... the American flag, the ability to bounce, and... what else?!

Armpits?

[Tee]

Originally Posted by JayhawkMom

So expecting the other parent to assist in supporting the child financially is selfish??? How do you figure??? Unfortunately for many men, financially supporting a child is just as important as emotional support. If I'm there for my kid, loving him, providing spiritual guidance, etc and I CAN'T FEED HIM, which is more neglectful??? You can't feed a kid on love Tee........some things can only be done with money and anyone who as ever raised a child knows that. If a guy wants to be a parent......be a COMPLETE parent and financially support your kid as well. If you're not willing to put your money where your mouth is, you probably aren't worth having as a parent to begin with.

You can interpret my post however you want. It's not what I said, but it's what you heard. You are a woman who has been dealt a bad hand, I can see that, but you are failing to understand that holding a child ransom from a father or a mother who is behind on child support is wrong and only hurts the child. Now if you are too thick headed to understand what I just said then I am done arguing with you.

I don't think you are being honest about the whole starving child thing though..Have you ever heard of welfare, SRS, SSI, WIC, Free Lunches, Section 8, Medicare, SS, etc?? If a child starves in the US with todays entitlements then the parent is simply failing to get the assistance that is needed. There's no excuse for that.

Listen, I am not a dead beat dad (I have no children) but I have in some ways adopted and provided for a child that is not mine who was the product of a dead beat dad- so I have no love lost for dead beat dads. My point is that children need both parents in their lives, that is why I have filled in for one that chooses to be absent, for whatever reason. Neither men nor women have the right to punish a child by using them as a pawn in the war for child support. If the mother of a child of mine failed to pay support, I'd still want her in the child's life. If you can't see that then you are being selfish!

If you don't get it, then you never will because you are obviously a woman scorn.

[JayhawkMom]

Originally Posted by Tee

You can interpret my post however you want. It's not what I said, but it's what you heard. You are a woman who has been dealt a bad hand, I can see that, but you are failing to understand that holding a child ransom from a father or a mother who is behind on child support is wrong and only hurts the child. Now if you are too thick headed to understand what I just said then I am done arguing with you.

I don't think you are being honest about the whole starving child thing though..Have you ever heard of welfare, SRS, SSI, WIC, Free Lunches, Section 8, Medicare, SS, etc?? If a child starves in the US with todays entitlements then the parent is simply failing to get the assistance that is needed. There's no excuse for that.

Listen, I am not a dead beat dad (I have no children) but I have in some ways adopted and provided for a child that is not mine who was the product of a dead beat dad- so I have no love lost for dead beat dads. My point is that children need both parents in their lives, that is why I have filled in for one that chooses to be absent, for whatever reason. Neither men nor women have the right to punish a child by using them as a pawn in the war for child support. If the mother of a child of mine failed to pay support, I'd still want her in the child's life. If you can't see that then you are being selfish!

If you don't get it, then you never will because you are obviously a woman scorn.

Oh no, I get it alright. You are filling in for a child who's 2nd "parent" is obviously not willing to be a parent........all I'm saying is, just because you create a child, doesn't automatically make you fit to be a parent. Some kids, believe it or not, are better off with someone like you filling in, rather than with the actual sperm donor. In that case, I have no problem doing without child support; my beef is a "parent" who only wants to be the picture as long as they don't have to "sacrifice" anything.... their time, their lifestyle or the money it takes to feed, clothe, and educate a child. Name calling aside, I think you're missing my point on this issue.