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Old 06-28-2007, 02:46 PM
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Customer Shoots 2 Subway Robbery Suspects

Police: Ex-Marine Shoots 2 Subway Robbery Suspects - News Story - WPLG Miami

PLANTATION, Fla. -- A retired United States Marine disrupted a robbery in progress when he shot two men who attempted to rob a Subway sandwich shop, fatally wounding one of them, police said.

According to Plantation police, two armed men barged into the Subway at 1949 Pine Island Road shortly after 11 p.m. Wednesday, demanding money from the employee behind the counter. When they tried to force John Lovell into the bathroom, he pulled out a gun and shot both men, police said.

Donicio Arrindell, 22, was shot in the head and later died at the hospital. Fredrick Gadson, 21, was shot in the chest and ran from the Subway, but police found him in hiding in some bushes on the property of a nearby BankAtlantic.


Lovell, 71, was the lone customer at the time. Police said he had a concealed weapons permit.

A witness who was about to enter the Subway at the time said he thought the shootings were justified.

"I think justice, you know, was served and a civilian was a hero for today," Sebastian Shakespeare said.

Police said Lovell, a retired Marine, wouldn't be charged.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:03 PM
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Good job John Lovell, USMC Ret. I hope you are rewarded with a free Subway sandwich for life card!
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I love it!

Another CCH licensee saves the day.....at the expense of one less criminal scumbag.
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I love it!

Another CCH licensee saves the day.....at the expense of one less criminal scumbag.
Has anyone here even glanced at the spine of Hugo's "Les Miserables," much less read it?
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:38 PM
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...and that book/play has what to do with Concealed Carry Handgun permits???



PS. I haven't read it, and don't care to. I prefer books written in the 20th or 21st century.
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...and that book/play has what to do with Concealed Carry Handgun permits???
It lends quite a bit of insight to the crass generalization of "criminal scumbags."

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PS. I haven't read it, and don't care to. I prefer books written in the 20th or 21st century.
I'm impressed. You knew it was 19th century.
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It lends quite a bit of insight to the crass generalization of "criminal scumbags."....
OK, I'm a little intrigued, explain what you mean by crass generalizations....
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Well, it doesn't apply to all crass generalizations. Just the "criminal scumbag" one.

In the first 96 pages of Les Miserables, Victor Hugo paints a vivid picture of the circumstances that led to one man's incarceration and eventual branding as a criminal. It also shows how a single act of kindness changed this man's life and caused him to positively affect - time and time and time again - those people around him in lesser circumstances.

I think we need to be careful when we carelessly brand people with labels based on a single, possibly atypical, act - especially when concealed weapons give us the capability of acting as judge, jury, and executioner.
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...I think we need to be careful when we carelessly brand people with labels based on a single, possibly atypical, act - especially when concealed weapons give us the capability of acting as judge, jury, and executioner.
So when two armed men barge into a business banishing weapons, demanding money and attempt to force you into a bathroom we shouldn’t jump to conclusions. It might simply be a single, possibly atypical act.

[sarcasm mode] I can see where these actions might be misunderstood as the actions of a criminal scumbag and a highly trained professional is needed to properly interpret the situation. Perhaps you can persuade the two nice gunmen to sit down and have a soda while you call someone for a second opinion. [/sarcasm mode]
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