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Old 10-26-2007, 05:54 AM
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I think the most infuriating thing about the Garden City article and many other stories around the country swirls around the usual accusations but actually follows a lot of common sense. In Garden City they saw a problem. Unlicensed drivers and/or those with no insurance on the streets. As many posters have pointed out in this forum when an accident occurs, you or the insurance company are left to fit the bill because the other person has no insurance or license. Ultimately everyone paying insurance premiums covers the cost.

Now there are the Garden City Hispanic advocates that act the same way as other Hispanic advocacy groups around the country. The theme is that the laws or stricter enforcement is "anti-immigrant, anti-Hispanic, or racist." Then they start having marches, PR campaigns, or other types of campaigns to suppress enforcement then the problem just keeps growing and growing until you end up with our current problem of 12 million illegals in the US moving state to state. ID theft is on the increase, criminal gangs such as MS13 are increasing, losses to businesses are increasing, and citizens are screaming for something to be done. Rather than calling our citizens or elected officials racist or anti-whatever to get enforcement to stop, how about helping people become legal the right way. Give education classes, help with filing the necessary paperwork, etc.

Sorry about the soapbox but it really irks me that the race card gets pulled time and time again. The law is the law and it is that simple. The law is meant to maintain civilized society and bring those that break it back into compliance, hence punishment. If you break the law, cowboy the heck up, don't blame society for your own shortcomings, and don't accuse everyone else of being a racist because you choose not to follow the law.
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Old 10-26-2007, 06:42 AM
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Good post WizardofOz

I've never understood the idea behind "why they come here." The advocates claim "They're just looking for a better life" yet they seems to want to bring their problems with them and live the same here in America. America offers a better life because we have laws, and we expect people to live by them. Fact is they like the idea of Americas handouts.
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Old 10-26-2007, 06:45 AM
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. America offers a better life because we have laws, and we expect people to live by them. Fact is they like the idea of Americas handouts.
Very well said. We (USA'ians) DO have a better life because of our laws. I 100% agree and as you see in Dodge it's NOT so better right now because of the lawlessness that is overtaking our city due in part to illegals that don't respect our laws. When we lose THAT then we might as well become a Mexican state.
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In Garden City they saw a problem. Unlicensed drivers and/or those with no insurance on the streets. As many posters have pointed out in this forum when an accident occurs, you or the insurance company are left to fit the bill because the other person has no insurance or license. Ultimately everyone paying insurance premiums covers the cost.
See, what you are describing is called LEADERSHIP. The leaders IDENTIFIED A PROBLEM at the local level that they could solve in order to protect their CITIZENS. They TOOK action to FIX the problem or at least REDUCE it resulting in what should be a safer place to drive. Not to mention the long term ramifications that maybe the insurance rates will drop there?!?

What do we have in Dodge? This is what we get....

Dear Sherry,


Thanks for your input; as far as I know there are no plans to change any traffic ordinances.


Sincerely,

Rick Sowers

Not, this sounds like a good idea, lets look into it. NOPE, business of usual. What the deal is that the beef plants run the town with their money. ANY move by the city/local gov't that might upset them is probably NOT going to happen, after all we MUST look after our beef packers. (not saying that all people at the packing plant don't have a license but lets look at where the problem stems from) All I have to say is LEADERSHIP LEADERSHIP LEADERSHIP. Are YOUR local leaders representing YOU (Bubba) or are they representing someone else? Do they have YOUR best interest in mind or are they after the almighty $?
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I can't help but see these people as lazy. If I see my neighbors place looking good compared to mine, I am inspired to work on improving my place, not moving to my neighbors.

They complain about the life in their country but instead of working to change it, they prefer to move to a country where the grass is greener. Problem is, its not long before that country begins to look like their own because they don't want to change. They just want a better life with no effort of their own.

If they do nothing to fix the problems in their own country, they are the reason their country sux.
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If our city leaders can't lead they could at least follow...
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If our city leaders can't lead they could at least follow...
If it's anti-smoking & ordinances that lead to tax increases, they're right behind the leaders.
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Here is what I sent....

Sir,

I'm sure you are familiar with the article that appeared yesterday in the Dodge Globe concerning Garden City cracking down on people driving without a drivers license and consequently insurance. I personally feel that the leadership of the Garden City community had the safety and best interest of their citizens in mind when they approved this step towards making their city safer for all.

The questions I would like to pose to you sir as a leader of our community is that do you feel like this would make the community safer? If so would it be possible to do the same thing in Dodge City? What obstacles would stand in the way from making it happen?

A consequence of those that drive with no license is the same individuals driving without insurance. When one of these uninsured motorist is responsible for an accident with one of the good citizens of our community that citizen has to pay which will drive insurance rates up in the long run and adverse affect our community.

I have talked to other great citizens in Dodge and many of them mirror my opinion. I have a wife and young child. I personally feel that our streets would be much safer with less unlicensed drivers on the road. What would it take to make this happen?


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See, what you are describing is called LEADERSHIP. The leaders IDENTIFIED A PROBLEM at the local level that they could solve in order to protect their CITIZENS. They TOOK action to FIX the problem or at least REDUCE it resulting in what should be a safer place to drive. Not to mention the long term ramifications that maybe the insurance rates will drop there?!?

What do we have in Dodge? This is what we get....

Dear Sherry,


Thanks for your input; as far as I know there are no plans to change any traffic ordinances.


Sincerely,

Rick Sowers

Not, this sounds like a good idea, lets look into it. NOPE, business of usual. What the deal is that the beef plants run the town with their money. ANY move by the city/local gov't that might upset them is probably NOT going to happen, after all we MUST look after our beef packers. (not saying that all people at the packing plant don't have a license but lets look at where the problem stems from) All I have to say is LEADERSHIP LEADERSHIP LEADERSHIP. Are YOUR local leaders representing YOU (Bubba) or are they representing someone else? Do they have YOUR best interest in mind or are they after the almighty $?
I was disappointed in Ricks short, blunt reply. But then again...
Rick has a business here in Dodge City - a business that sells car radio equip and cell phones. A magnet business for illegals. He wont do anything to hurt his own interests.

This is the problem with the commisioners in DC - most, if not all are business owners. How else could they take off any time they need for the commissioner duties? The position by it's very nature, rules out the common blue collar worker representation. 90% of us work for someone else. So, it does not represent us well, since it's panel is made up of mostly businessmen. Is it any wonder why the panel will side with big business over the common man?
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Doesn't the Dodge City charter allow for citizen initiatives to place a question like this on the ballot?
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