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12-14-2007, 11:53 AM
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__________________ Politicians are like diapers, they both need changed occasionally for the same reason. Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" The hard work of one will do more than the prayer of millions.     |
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12-17-2007, 05:11 PM
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| Remember, when seconds count..the police are only minutes away. Finally the press is writing something. What makes this meaningful is that this is NOT a letter to the editor. *********************************************** From the Portland Press Herald Here's more proof that 'disarmed' and 'victim' are synonymous M.D. Harmon December 14, 2007 Has anyone ever wondered why people with guns who have kissed sanity good-bye never take out their uncontrollable rage on the nearest police station? Nor do they drive off to the nearest Army base, shooting range or hunting club to vent their murderous frustration. It should only take a moment's thought to understand why: Those places have people who have relatively easy access to weapons themselves. It's one thing to be homicidal and suicidal, but it's quite another to consider that one's murderous intent could be brought to an untimely halt through the immediate application of superior firepower. However, there are places that draw these people like magnets, and they, too, are easy to locate: They are the places where the possession of firearms is forbidden, and that fact is widely advertised. Some of these places even go so far as to publicly display their vulnerability to mass murder through the posting of signs that say "No Guns Permitted" or "Gun-Free Zone." Virginia Tech was proud of its "gun-free" status, and boasted about how safe a place it was once it posted signs forbidding firearms on campus. Thirty-two people died there last April as the cost of that exercise in hubris and futility. Other places where firearms are typically banned are stores, including shopping malls, government buildings, including schools, and places of worship. We saw in the Columbine shootings how effective gun bans are for schools. And in Omaha last week, eight people died in a shopping mall before the shooter, cornered by police, killed himself. In Ogden, Utah, last February, a man killed five people in a mall before an armed off-duty police officer pinned him down until help could arrive. And just this past weekend, a disturbed youth who had posted violent diatribes against Christians on an Internet site killed two students at a Colorado missionary center. He later showed up at a church that had an association with the missionary group carrying multiple weapons and 1,000 rounds of ammunition. But because of the earlier shootings, the church had activated its voluntary security force, composed of members who had licenses to carry concealed weapons and the training to use them. The gunman killed two teenage girls in the church parking lot and wounded their father before he entered the church. But once he got inside, he was confronted by one of the church's volunteer guards, Jeanne Assam, a former police officer armed with a pistol. As witnesses described it, she advanced on the shooter yelling "Surrender," and when he raised his weapon, fired several shots, bringing him to the ground. Police reported that the badly wounded gunman then shot himself to death. Assam, dubbed "Dirty Harriet" by one writer, was credited by the church's pastor with having saved 50 to 100 lives. It's almost enough to make a fair-minded, thoughtful person conclude that armed, law-abiding citizens might have saved countless more lives at places like those listed above. But not in the view of the confiscation crowd. They point at the weapons the gunmen used and say that banning them would halt such shootings. Problem is, there's precious little evidence to support that view, and much to disprove it. Different parts of this country display disparities in rates of serious crimes. But that crime rate has been falling steadily for almost 20 years. While many factors undoubtedly contribute to that trend, including tougher sentencing laws, the ability of people to defend themselves also counts. The 40 states (including Maine) where concealed-carry permits are readily available to law-abiding people report on average a 22 percent lower violent crime rate, a 30 percent lower murder rate, a 46 percent lower robbery rate and a 12 percent lower aggravated assault rate than the 10 states where the possession of firearms by honest citizens is greatly restricted. As University of Tennessee law professor Glenn Reynolds (who blogs as "Instapundit") noted after the VT murders last spring, "People don't stop killers. People with guns do." He wrote, "Though press accounts downplayed it, the 2002 shooting at Appalachian Law School was stopped when a student retrieved a gun from his car and confronted the shooter. Likewise, Pearl, Miss., school shooter Luke Woodham was stopped when the school's vice principal took a .45 from his truck and ran to the scene." Police, he notes, can't be everywhere, and when they do arrive, it's usually too late for at least some victims. However, "one group of people is, by definition, always on the scene: the victims. (But) if they're armed, they may wind up not being victims at all." As the U.S. Supreme Court ponders whether the Second Amendment protects our right of self-defense with firearms, the actual case is being proved by people like Jeanne Assam. M.D. Harmon is an editorial writer. He can be contacted at: mharmon@pressherald.com __________________ |
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12-18-2007, 06:35 AM
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| Excellent article!
__________________ *Don't just float though life, Make Waves!*  |
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12-18-2007, 03:20 PM
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__________________  ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Three groups spend other people's money: children, thieves, and politicians. All three need supervision. —DICK ARMEY Click here to view Democrat’s comments on Iraq and WMD’s |
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12-18-2007, 05:49 PM
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| Arsonists do not attack fire departments. People with an agenda want to be able to pull off that agenda by facing the least resistance, that is only obvious and common sense. If you want the malls, schools and churches to be as heavily armed as a police department then you have a good comparison to what the writer was saying. If you had signs saying “These premises guarded by armed security” or something along those lines then they would be less of a target because it is obvious there will be resistance. Just because you have a sign saying no guns allowed does not make it a better target, or even an easier target. The writer, in his own words, said: “Though press accounts downplayed it, the 2002 shooting at Appalachian Law School was stopped when a student retrieved a gun from his car and confronted the shooter. Likewise, Pearl, Miss., school shooter Luke Woodham was stopped when the school's vice principal took a .45 from his truck and ran to the scene.” These two people stopped the shooters by retrieving their weapons from their cars, not by having them on their person. So it didn’t matter if they were allowed to carry weapons or not. If any of the victims of these shootings WERE permitted to carry guns, but didn’t because of restrictions, then you have an argument of how many lives could have been saved. I have not read, or heard, one report or statement from a surviving victim, or someone close to a victim, saying they could have stopped the shootings but didn’t because they were not allowed to carry their guns. You notice the church in question activated a voluntary security force. I do not recall the church saying to it’s patrons to all bring guns to the services. They were smart and I give them a ton of credit for thinking ahead and doing what they did. I am all for carrying concealed weapons. I believe it is our right and respect those who do so. I also believe there has to be limits and restrictions. Where I work, guns are not allowed or permitted. I am the only one armed. If someone comes in with a gun, and brandishes it, I will shoot them first and ask questions later. I am not going to take the time to ask them if they are licensed, trained, good guy or bad. I am not going to worry if they were trying to stop someone else, I do not have that luxury.
__________________ I refuse to answer that question.....because I do not know the answer. |
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12-18-2007, 06:10 PM
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__________________ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Three groups spend other people's money: children, thieves, and politicians. All three need supervision. —DICK ARMEY Click here to view Democrat’s comments on Iraq and WMD’s | ||||
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12-18-2007, 06:48 PM
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| I believe she was arguing the right to carry an assault rifle. Different situation all together, unless people walking around with assault rifles is something you like. What I mentioned was a victim, or family member of a victim, saying that if only they were allowed to carry their gun they had a permit to carry, then the shootings (VT, the mall, the schools) would have been stopped or slowed down.
__________________ I refuse to answer that question.....because I do not know the answer. |
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12-18-2007, 08:06 PM
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Luby’s Cafeteria, Killeen Texas, 1991. Dr. Hupp had left her pistol in the car because there was no carry law in Texas at the time. She had a clear shot at the nutcase before he killed her parents and most of the total of 23 people. She was instrumental in getting the CCW law passed in Texas. This was her testimony at the AWB hearings about self-defense. After another search and digging through several links I found this from 1992; Quote:
__________________ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Three groups spend other people's money: children, thieves, and politicians. All three need supervision. —DICK ARMEY Click here to view Democrat’s comments on Iraq and WMD’s |
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