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Old 02-04-2008, 05:25 AM
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Hillary's plan to Garnish Wages to ensure you have healthcare...


Clinton health plan may mean tapping pay




By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer Sun Feb 3, 11:40 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.

The New York senator has criticized presidential rival Barack Obama for pushing a health plan that would not require universal coverage. Clinton has not always specified the enforcement measures she would embrace, but when pressed on ABC's "This Week," she said: "I think there are a number of mechanisms" that are possible, including "going after people's wages, automatic enrollment."

Clinton said such measures would apply only to workers who can afford health coverage but refuse to buy it, which puts undue pressure on hospitals and emergency rooms. With her proposals for subsidies, she said, "it will be affordable for everyone."

Clinton also suggested that Obama would be more susceptible to Republican attack ads in a general election because he has not been scrutinized for years as she has.

"I've been through the Republican attacks over and over again," she said. When Obama was elected to the Senate from Illinois in 2004, she said, he "didn't face anyone who ran attack ads" comparable to those aimed at her.

The presidential contenders in both parties campaigned all-out on Sunday, two days before the Super Tuesday voting in 24 states holding primaries or caucuses.

Clinton was campaigning in Missouri and Minneapolis. Obama scheduled a rally in Wilmington, Del., while some of his highest-profile surrogates — his wife, Michelle, Oprah Winfrey and Caroline Kennedy — were rallying voters in Los Angeles. Among Republicans, Arizona Sen. John McCain was stumping in Connecticut and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney scheduled stops in Glen Ellyn, Ill., and the St. Louis suburb of Maryland Heights. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee was concentrating on the South, with appearances in Georgia and Tennessee.

McCain told "Fox News Sunday" he would veto any tax increase passed by a Democratic-controlled Congress. McCain, who opposed President Bush's first two tax cuts, now says Congress should make the reductions permanent, and that there also should be further tax reductions for business investments.

His chief rival, Romney, told the ABC program that McCain "doesn't understand the economy" and that his advocacy of a higher gasoline tax to combat global warming would hurt U.S. consumers.

Romney also called on Huckabee to drop from the race. In response, called the suggestion "ludicrous," noting that only a fraction of the delegates needed to win the Republican presidential nomination had been apportioned thus far.

"I've got a different take on that. I think it's time for Mitt Romney to step aside," Huckabee said on CNN.

Clinton health plan may mean tapping pay - Yahoo! News
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Old 02-04-2008, 05:27 AM
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Clinton said such measures would apply only to workers who can afford health coverage but refuse to buy it, which puts undue pressure on hospitals and emergency rooms. With her proposals for subsidies, she said, "it will be affordable for everyone."

IN OTHER WORDS....EVERYONE that doesn't have health care WILL have to pay for it whether they want it or not. The GOV'T will make that decision FOR you....
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Maybe we’d be better off with Hillary running our personal budgets. Look what she can do with cattle futures. And anyone that can spend 8 years swearing that they can’t recall and then turn around and make millions writing a book about their memoirs could make us all rich if we let her.
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I just don't get that. Sometimes people can afford it, but choose to run the risk of an expensive health issue. It's their own private life. If they want to bankrupt themselves due to health problems, it's their own decision. I really don't want the government in it. They'll just foul it up. Or maybe that's just how she intends to pay for an illegal immigrant's 8-person household.....
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Or maybe that's just how she intends to pay for an illegal immigrant's 8-person household.....
I would agree with you there.......
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I just don't get that. Sometimes people can afford it, but choose to run the risk of an expensive health issue. It's their own private life. If they want to bankrupt themselves due to health problems, it's their own decision. I really don't want the government in it. They'll just foul it up. Or maybe that's just how she intends to pay for an illegal immigrant's 8-person household.....
But, when they bankrupt themselves, it is the hospitals and the rest of us that have to pay the higher prices to cover their bankruptcy. If they can afford insurance they should have insurance.
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But, when they bankrupt themselves, it is the hospitals and the rest of us that have to pay the higher prices to cover their bankruptcy. If they can afford insurance they should have insurance.
Especially in the ER Rooms. And illegals who rely almost exclusively on this solution.

The problem with Hillary's plan is that it essentially guarantees handing everyone's $ to the insurance industry that has already made money hand over fist for the last 15 years. Of course, those are the same people bankrolling her campaign, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised.
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handing everyone's $ to the insurance industry that has already made money hand over fist for the last 15 years.
Ouch! I can't speak for health insurers - they have their own special place in my heart.....I can speak for property/casualty insurers. In the 80's and very early 90's, I would agree. They made money hand over fist and invested it poorly. We're back to seeing companies that MUST make an underwriting profit to stay in business. Is that a bad thing? No - the industry employs a major amount of America's office and tech employees. Do you remember the WTC? That bankrupted 3 major companies. So, I agree, in the 80's (which was 15-20 years ago), there was plenty of money in it and CEO's were getting filthy rich. It's just the opposite now. Health insurers don't post the profits that most of America's larger corporations do. It's a misnomer and a popular belief. It's just not true.
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