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Old 03-06-2008, 05:09 PM
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...I invest almost the maximum allowed in my 401k/IRA. I think I'm sitting pretty good, just don't have the money to put into stocks.
You have a 401K that isn’t invested in stocks?
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:01 PM
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I won't pay more taxes than I do now
Don't forget the "Peter" Tax.

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So you didn't get a tax cut? Do you invest at all?
I invest in beer, horses, sports, and women---not necessarily in that order! All of them give me a "tax cut".

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As a poor, lower middle class bastard when was the last time I created a job or anything like that?
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You have a 401K that isn’t invested in stocks?

What's your point???? Even I know that there are no capital gains in a 401k. All growth in a 401k is tax-free. After you retire and start drawing out the funds it is taxed as regular income. It makes no difference if it is invested in stocks, bonds, real estate, or guaranteed interest accounts.
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Old 03-06-2008, 07:03 PM
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:04 PM
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What's your point????.....
I just have some crazy idea that if you invest in a 401K with the idea that it will grow your investment in the long term that you might favor a tax policy that helps grow your money.

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Fact: Cutting capital gains tax rates will, as it has in the past, cause asset values, including stock markets, to rise.
  • Some people claim that lowering capital gains tax rates will cause the stock market to fall, because people would sell their investments. By this silly logic, if people want to increase stock market values, then there should be an increase in capital gains tax rates, because, then investors would be less willing to sell investments.
  • In fact, lowering capital gains tax rates increases the prices of stocks and other assets. Stock markets reflect the collective actions of people looking forward.
  • Lowering the cost of capital by decreasing tax rates on investment returns will increase asset values.
  • For example, the 1997 cut in the top capital gains tax rate from 28 percent to 20 percent increased stock prices by approximately 8 percent.

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Every round of cuts in the cap-gains tax for individuals has been a triumph. In 1978, 1981, 1997, and 2003 the capital-gains rate for individuals was cut and the stock market rallied strongly, driving sizable increases in tax revenues. Cutting the cap-gains tax is the ultimate supply-side win-win. The most recent reduction, in 2003, breathed life back into the stock markets from the moment it was conceived, triggering a remarkable rally that is still underway.

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The 2003 tax cuts probably contributed to a strong stock market in 2003, which helped to increase tax revenues on capital gains. The stock market experienced the second largest percentage increase in the past decade: The broad-market indexes experienced double-digit annual growth rates after the 1997 capital gains tax cut and the 2003 capital gains tax cut.[13] This increase in equity capital helped to finance new businesses and has led to the increased job growth since the summer of 2003.

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The stock market will rise and fall no matter what the tax policy is. The stock market has been in a steady decline since about October of 2007. While the tax cuts are still in effect.
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The stock market will rise and fall no matter what the tax policy is. The stock market has been in a steady decline since about October of 2007. While the tax cuts are still in effect.
Tax cuts are not the sole thing that controls the market. There are many other forces but they do contribute.

What do you think would happen to the market and our economy if taxes were raised Bubba...or "the Bush tax cuts were rolled back"???
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It would find a way to recover just like the housing crisis will find a way to recover.
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It would find a way to recover just like the housing crisis will find a way to recover.
You mean with other tax payers bailing them out...?
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