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[Bubba]

I just read the top story on the front page of the Globe in today's paper(May 8) and can honestly say that Pres. Bush is doing something right for a change. It seems that the legislature has finally agreed on a farm bill, but Pres. Bush says that he can't sign the bill into law because of the "bloated" subsidies to farmers at a time with record grain prices. I agree with the President on this one fully.

Why should farmers get welfare, in the form of subsidies, to run their business when other businesses can't get the same sort of payments. If a local bar & grill has slow business for a time they can't get a federal subsidy to help them out, so why should a farmer. Farming is a business, if you can't adapt with the times and current business climate to make a living, then maybe it is time to sell off to somebody else that can make it in this business climate.

If the government is going to give welfare(subsidies) to farmers they should give them to every business owner.

[ksgrainman]

Why should farmers get welfare, in the form of subsidies, to run their business when other businesses can't get the same sort of payments. If a local bar & grill has slow business for a time they can't get a federal subsidy to help them out, so why should a farmer. Farming is a business, if you can't adapt with the times and current business climate to make a living, then maybe it is time to sell off to somebody else that can make it in this business climate.

Mines for sell, you ready to make an offer?

[Mike B.]

Originally Posted by ksgrainman

Why should farmers get welfare, in the form of subsidies, to run their business when other businesses can't get the same sort of payments. If a local bar & grill has slow business for a time they can't get a federal subsidy to help them out, so why should a farmer. Farming is a business, if you can't adapt with the times and current business climate to make a living, then maybe it is time to sell off to somebody else that can make it in this business climate.

Mines for sell, you ready to make an offer?

ksgrainman,

I have $40.00 in my casino account....will that work?

[ksgrainman]

It's the best offer so far Mike.

[Army_Strong]

Originally Posted by Bubba

I just read the top story on the front page of the Globe in today's paper(May 8) and can honestly say that Pres. Bush is doing something right for a change. It seems that the legislature has finally agreed on a farm bill, but Pres. Bush says that he can't sign the bill into law because of the "bloated" subsidies to farmers at a time with record grain prices. I agree with the President on this one fully.

Why should farmers get welfare, in the form of subsidies, to run their business when other businesses can't get the same sort of payments. If a local bar & grill has slow business for a time they can't get a federal subsidy to help them out, so why should a farmer. Farming is a business, if you can't adapt with the times and current business climate to make a living, then maybe it is time to sell off to somebody else that can make it in this business climate.

If the government is going to give welfare(subsidies) to farmers they should give them to every business owner.

How about because 1 Kansas farmer such as the Grainman feeds 125 people. I understand that corn and wheat prices are up which should give them more money. But so is the cost of everything that they buy. So why should they not get subsidies? Grainman keep doing what you do, I like to eat!!!

[SGT T.]

Because if your bar and grill goes under, oh well. Guess you'll have to grill your own meat and get your beer from the liquor store. If farms go under, people starve. We have a surplus, lets keep it that way. Farms have been taking it on the chin for years, its about time they got something good out of the deal.

Just my extremely un-educated opinion.

[Justoo]

Big oil gets subsidies. They have record prices.

Cato-at-liberty » Oil Subsidies in the Dock

The main issue is the so-called Section 199 tax credit passed in 2005. The credit is available to all domestic manufacturers - not just to oil and gas companies - and it allows the oil industry to write-off $13.6 billion over ten years that might otherwise be sent to the federal treasury. While a good case could be made to get rid of Section 199 in toto – the feds shouldn’t be in the business of artificially making some business activities more economically attractive than others – limiting that deduction for oil and gas companies and oil and gas companies only will compound the underlying economic distortion and encourage investors to put relatively less money in oil and gas production and more money in other industrial sectors. How is that a good thing with oil prices topping $100 a barrel?

[ksgrainman]

I actually don't disagree with Bubba, I think it SHOULD be survival of the fittest. If you can't make get the hell out of the way! Good point Bubba. Why should the Gov't pay me 'welfare' to keep food cheap? NOR should they pay for WIC, school lunches, food stamps, or etc. Which all come out of the USDA budget.
If a bar and grill goes out of business it was probably because they weren't supplying what the comsumers wanted, poor businees managment, paid TOO MUCH for the business in the beginning, or didn't meet another Gov't mandate. And if they started out with a SBA loan, then they were also subsidized. None the less, they went out of business, and that is never good for the whole of the economy.
If a person buys a home, that they could NEVER afford, and things turn SOUTH on them, SHOULD our Gov't bail them out? NOPE. Survival of the Fittest.
I do however agree with Bubba that some parts of what the House and Senate have in this bill are not reflective of the times now. Probably more of another touchy fell good measure to get votes.

BTW, on May 17th there is Echo Taps at Ft. Dodge, and I WILL be there (along with many others) helping feed those of you that will come to honor OUR Armed Forces. If you can PLEASE join us.

[doc holliday]

Originally Posted by ksgrainman

NOR should they pay for WIC, school lunches, food stamps, or etc. Which all come out of the USDA budget.

Don't forget the Forestry Service!

Farm Policy Facts Misperception Musings - Myth Busters Part 2-Federal Spending and the Farm Bill