Mexican Military crossing US Border

[Bubba]

Maybe it's time to have the military leave Iraq and come kick some Mexican ass!?!

http://washingtontimes.com/national/...1930-3169r.htm

Mexican military incursions reported
By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
January 17, 2006


The U.S. Border Patrol has warned agents in Arizona of incursions into the United States by Mexican soldiers "trained to escape, evade and counterambush" if detected -- a scenario Mexico denied yesterday.
The warning to Border Patrol agents in Tucson, Ariz., comes after increased sightings of what authorities described as heavily armed Mexican military units on the U.S. side of the border. The warning asks the agents to report the size, activity, location, time and equipment of any units observed.
It also cautions agents to keep "a low profile," to use "cover and concealment" in approaching the Mexican units, to employ "shadows and camouflage" to conceal themselves and to "stay as quiet as possible."
Border Patrol spokesman Salvador Zamora confirmed that a "military incursion" warning was given to Tucson agents, but said it was designed to inform them how to react to any sightings of military and foreign police in this country and how to properly document any incursion.
Mr. Zamora added that although incursions by the Mexican military do occur, they usually have taken place in areas of the border "not marked by monuments or signs." He said U.S. military units also have crossed mistakenly into Mexico.
But Rafael Laveaga, spokesman for the Mexican Embassy in Washington, denied that Mexican military personnel are crossing into the United States.
"I strongly deny any incursions by the Mexican military as inaccurate allegations," Mr. Laveaga said. "The Mexican military is a well-respected institution with strict rules on how to control Northern Mexico. It maintains a protocol of not going within a mile of the border, and those who would trespass would be severely punished."
Mr. Laveaga said some drug smugglers headed "both north and south" wear uniforms and drive military-type vehicles, and might have "confused" U.S. authorities.
"Give me a break," said T.J. Bonner, a 27-year Border Patrol veteran who heads the National Border Patrol Council. "Intrusions by the Mexican military to protect drug loads happen all the time and represent a significant threat to the agents.
"Why else would they be in the area, firing at federal agents in the United States? There is no other explanation," said Mr. Bonner, whose organization represents all 10,000 of the nonsupervisory Border Patrol agents.
He also challenged reports that Mexican military units had crossed mistakenly into the United States, saying, "Every country's military has a [global positioning system] nowadays, including the Mexicans.
"If the border is so poorly marked, why don't the thousands of Border Patrol agents working 24/7 along it ever seem to get lost, and none of us have been issued a GPS," he said.

[Army_of_One]

Until we confront the issue and do something to stop it...it will only get worse...until someone loses a life.

[Bubba]

there was a page 2 to the article....sorry I missed it earlier.

A Pentagon spokeswoman said yesterday that she had no information on the reported incursions.
A total of 216 incursions by suspected Mexican military units have been documented since 1996 -- 75 in California, 63 in Arizona and 78 in Texas, according to a Department of Homeland Security report.
Attacks on Border Patrol agents in the past few years have been attributed to current or former Mexican military personnel. U.S. law-enforcement officials have long thought that current and former Mexican soldiers are being paid to protect drug shipments bound for the United States.
Several agents said the attacks have escalated in the past two years as U.S. security efforts on the border have increased -- including the July shooting of two agents in an ambush near Nogales, Ariz., by assailants in black commando-type clothing, who fired more than 50 rounds. Authorities said the gunmen used military-style cover-and-concealment tactics to escape back into Mexico. No one has been arrested.
Santa Cruz County, Ariz., Sheriff Tony Estrada said that at least four shooters were involved and that his deputies found commando clothing, food, water and other "sophisticated equipment" at the site.
Several former Mexican soldiers trained in the U.S. as anti-drug commandos are now part of a well-armed gang known as the "Zetas," which has been linked to hundreds of killings and kidnappings on both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border in southeastern Texas.
Many of the gang members have been identified as ex-members of an elite, anti-drug paratroop and intelligence battalion called the Special Air Mobile Force Group, who deserted in 1991.

[Lone Gunman]

Need to just kick their ass and take their drugs away from them. But then again that probably isn't politically correct.

[K C Muffin]

I bet our enemies in Iraq or wherever are laughing their asses off. We have troops in Southeast Asia still, we have troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. We still have troops in Korea (don't we?) - we're spreading ourselves so damned thin that we don't have personnel to guard our border in Mexico. I think that's just what they wanted and now the Mexicans are testing our patience. It's nice that we can help protect other countries from insurgence, but what about us here at home?

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Lone Gunman

Need to just kick their ass and take their drugs away from them. But then again that probably isn't politically correct.

Or, we could fix the illegal immigrant problem....send the military in to take over Mexico and when we are done we can make them all American citizens.

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by Bubba

Or, we could fix the illegal immigrant problem....send the military in to take over Mexico and when we are done we can make them all American citizens.

And then we could tax the heck out of them like we get taxed. See how fast they change their minds about freebies at taxpayer expense when it starts to come out of their pockets.

[TexKan]

I heard they were trying to reclaim part of California I think....... I'll have to go search........ I didn't pay too close attention cause I knew they could "claim" all they want but they won't "get" that's for sure..........

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

And then we could tax the heck out of them like we get taxed. See how fast they change their minds about freebies at taxpayer expense when it starts to come out of their pockets.

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by TexKan

I heard they were trying to reclaim part of California I think....... I'll have to go search........ I didn't pay too close attention cause I knew they could "claim" all they want but they won't "get" that's for sure..........

I think it goes a lot further than part of California….

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