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    "It is freedom of religion, not freedom from religion."

    great quote, justoo. this says it all. the rest is dribble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine View Post
    "It is freedom of religion, not freedom from religion."

    great quote, justoo. this says it all. the rest is dribble.
    Exactly. The problem lies in that when the Government endorses a particular religion (one could EASILY argue that a Christian Cross is an endorsement). When the Government condones one religion (talk about slippery slope) it encroaches on the freedom of its citizens. Period. I don't want to live in Saudi Arabia...

    All great religions, in order to escape absurdity, have to admit a dilution of agnosticism. It is only the savage, whether of the African bush or the American gospel tent, who pretends to know the will and intent of God exactly and completely.

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  3. Hmmmmmmm - sounds like a case for the SCOTUS;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexKan View Post
    Hmmmmmmm - sounds like a case for the SCOTUS;)

    Is that somewhere by the SCROTUM?

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    Your right that it is a slap in the face of every US Veteran. That is why this is so dear to my heart.
    "Si vis pacem, para bellum"
    ("If you want peace, prepare for war!")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army_Strong View Post
    Your right that it is a slap in the face of every US Veteran. That is why this is so dear to my heart.
    Standing up for the Constitution is never a slap in the face of any veteran. The fact that he chose such a trivial spot in the middle of nowhere in order to affirm the Constitution is, I think, the part that really irks people.

    All great religions, in order to escape absurdity, have to admit a dilution of agnosticism. It is only the savage, whether of the African bush or the American gospel tent, who pretends to know the will and intent of God exactly and completely.

    - H.L. Mencken, Damn! A Book of Calumny, (1918)

    Lever matin, ce n'est pas bonheur;
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    - Rabelais, Gargantua, (1534)

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    Quote Originally Posted by agnostic View Post
    Standing up for the Constitution is never a slap in the face of any veteran.
    What constitution are you reading? The Constitution of the United States doesn't mention monuments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC Mike View Post
    What constitution are you reading? The Constitution of the United States doesn't mention monuments.
    What are you talking about ?

    All great religions, in order to escape absurdity, have to admit a dilution of agnosticism. It is only the savage, whether of the African bush or the American gospel tent, who pretends to know the will and intent of God exactly and completely.

    - H.L. Mencken, Damn! A Book of Calumny, (1918)

    Lever matin, ce n'est pas bonheur;
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    - Rabelais, Gargantua, (1534)

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    Our government has gotten too big. If this land was privately owned, we would not be in this problem.

    I can have a cross on my private plot in a standard cemetery but I can't have one in the cemetery plot that the government provides for me as part of my pay to serve in the war?!!! As far as I am concerned, each soldier in that cemetery and their families OWN THOSE PLOTS. The government should deed those plots over to the perspective occupant's families. Then they can do whatever the hell they want with them. PROBLEM SOLVED.


    This is why I opposed our local government passing regulations on how mourners could decorate their deceased loved ones graves on a private plot. Cause once the government starts getting involved, things "go to hell"...literally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agnostic View Post
    Exactly. The problem lies in that when the Government endorses a particular religion (one could EASILY argue that a Christian Cross is an endorsement). When the Government condones one religion (talk about slippery slope) it encroaches on the freedom of its citizens. Period. I don't want to live in Saudi Arabia...
    How in THIS case is this the government "endorsing" anything? Are they preventing other religious organizations from erecting their own memorial using their preferred religious symbol?

    NO! The cross placed on governement property is a politically a symbol of our freedoms, particularly religious freedoms in this instance. It was one group of verteran's way of remembering. If other groups wanted to erect their own memorial with the cross of David, or any other religious symbol, they would be allowed as well.

    Why should one groups religious freedom be stripped just because another religious group chose to not exercise their freedoms and erect their own memorial? The government didn't put the cross on that property and say Christianity is the endorsed religion of America, but it allowed a group of it's citizens to make use of freedoms this country offers and erect their memorial. More importantly, freedoms those citizens fought to keep.

    So are we to tell those veterans now, "You are allowed to sactrifice your life for this countries freedoms, but you are NOT allowed to enjoy them"?

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