Immigration Reform Act

[TexKan]

I knew there was someone that saw the future like me - actually it just popped into my head as a possibility - beyone being the right thing to do.

You don't have to agree with me to be a brutha!! I don't agree with lots of things you say - you kinda hang me on the edge of the fence by my collar sometimes..... LOL............... but I luv ya just the same! LOL

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by TexKan

...you kinda hang me on the edge of the fence by my collar sometimes..... LOL............... but I luv ya just the same! LOL

Somebody's gotta keep you in line! It's a tough thankless job sometimes.

[K C Muffin]

Bubba - I'd be more than happy to take a 50% pay cut if that would decrease your insurance costs. Fact is, it won't. The reason is because your insurance costs are largely and heavily regulated by the State. And the State allows the rates to increase because all costs are raising. Truth be known, there are only about 40% of the insurance jobs there used to be. That's due to increased vision of the insurance Gods about technology. I'm sitting right here on a laptop I carry with me 100% of the time. If I'm needed, anybody can reach me by Email or phone (which is also computerized). So. I'll take my 50% if you'll give up 50%. Oh, but wait a minute - I've honed my craft for more than 20 years.....so an employer is more than willing to pay me what I ask...........see the difference?

At Mickey's, they first have to teach them English (and they don't do a good job of it), then they have to teach them the use of the grills and the rest of the mechanics. Why would I (if I were a McD's owner) want to pay more to train them and watch them go to another employer or town?

I'm salaried, so I work 80 to 90 hours a week, counting all the time I spend in the evenings and weekends with files, Emails, and phone calls. Do you know many people that do that? Or do you know more who put in their 8 hours and walk away?

Isn't that what it's all about - working hard (smart), not just expecting to be paid whatever with no skills? Perhaps if the minimum wage were done away with altogether, you'd see a high responsibility level among the lower paid - because they'd see the benefits of staying in one place for a couple of years and honing a skill.

[TexKan]

I don't think anyone at a fast food joint thinks that thier employees are long term - management perhaps but they are way over minimum wage. They do altho deserve to make enough to buy the gas to get there, help pay some rent and daycare until they can get thier skills where they need to be to do what they need to do. We got enough slave labor in this country with the service industry and big business literally bussin them in almost. Nope I still think 7 an hour isn't too much to pay. Govt has voted itself nice fat increases the average wage hasn't gone up in a decade. I wouldn't work anywhere where I didn't get a raise in 10 years. What I get ain't much but it's better than 5 bucks and hour that's for sure! It's lots more than I made in dodge but then it ain't half as much fun!

[K C Muffin]

Originally Posted by TexKan

I don't think anyone at a fast food joint thinks that thier employees are long term

My point exactly. So once they've spent some bucks to train somebody, they move on. Why bother to pay them that much? I wouldn't mind paying more for my Big Macs or DQ or BBQ, but I sure don't want to if it's just going to the corporate bottom line, which is absolutely will.

I also don't think people work at McD's and think it's a long-term solution. But raising the minimum wage isnt going to help that. They have to raise the wages or benefits of those people to keep them. I want the government to back off.

[booger]

Raising of the minimum wage is nothing more than "BUYING VOTES" by the donkey party. SEE what I did for you, NOW vote for me. The Packy-derms want to cut your social security, your unemployment wage, your WIC, your earned credit income, your SSI, on an on. VOTE for me, I'll get you more money that you have ever had, Hell, I will even pay for you to live in this country, just come on in. We will give you more money that you'll ever need. Just VOTE for me.

[Detector]

There are government programs designed to supplement the income of the poor. Housing, food stamps etc. Those who really want to rise above poverty have the tools to do so. Raising the handouts will only raise the poverty base. If we make it easier to live without helping yourself where is the incentive?

I know this sounds very insensitive but tough love always does. We are not helping anybody by making it easier to remain poor.

We like to think raising the minimum wage would put another loaf of bread on the table of a family struggling, but the reality is it would more than likely just add another six pack for the week, a new steering wheel cover for the SUV or a few more nights of bingo or the bar for the week.

[TexKan]

It's not our place to say what a pay raise would buy - it's not our place to say if anyone is worthy of a pay raise. It is our place to say an honest hours pay for an honest hours work................. IF we own the business that's payin that wage.

WE aren't paying anything - why are we bitching about possibly (and i mean possibly) making someone feel they are able to provide for thier family a little better than they did a few years ago?

It's not up to us and I have never in my life been against a pay increase. All those kids makin minumum wage are gonna be us - I got minimum wage increases as a kid and felt like a million bucks it made me want better jobs with more pay ........... why should I not want that for someone else?

I thinkin there will be plenty of folks like me who just aren't really interested in assistance for the mere reason we hate standin in line. I think a decent wage will help them do that.

[jeezeweeze]

List of U.S. state minimum wages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Damn......I am becoming a researcher....totally disgusting...

Bubba ....its your fault.....!!!!!!

[Detector]

I've had more jobs than I care to admit and most every one was started at minimum wage. I've always been taught you get paid what you're worth or move on. I know you might say moving on isn't always an option, but I just don't believe that. I've always been able to find a job if I really wanted one.

I remember telling one employer, when asked what kind of money I was expecting, I'll work for you for 2 weeks and then you decide what I'm worth. If it's enough I'll stay, If not I'll move on. I worked for that employer for 5 years and the job was to start out at minimum wage.

I've never stayed at minimum wage more than a few paychecks. Maybe I've just been lucky in my 40 years of various jobs but I'm more inclined to believe you get paid what you're worth. Any employer knows the value of keeping a good employee.

I just don't see the benefit behind being forced to pay more for someone who has no ambition to do the best job they can.

Minimum wage goes up and so prices go up to compensate. Minimum wage still won't help them live any better we just all pay more for it. Where is the logic in that?