What happened to THIS Democratic Party?

[jeezeweeze]

Army
I agree with what you said. I know about the abuses.

As far as drug use, legal or illegal . I have no answer for that. I can only guess that for whatever reason someone chooses to become dependent on them is only know by them.

I am addicted to nicotine. I will probably quit when the grass is growing over me. I guess I haven't had enough health problems to make me want to give it a serious consideration for quitting. That's crazy I know. Why wait till your sick. There is no rational explanation for addictions. And the thinking pattern for an addicted person defies logic.

My dad was an alcoholic and I didn't understand how he could let alcohol control him so much. As much as I talk about my drinking habits, I can take it or leave it. I was a social drinker and did not just sit at home and crave it. I just liked the feeling of being more outgoing with a drink or two. I am in a "dry county" and I don't run over to buy it. I have no desire for it at all. So not having that addiction, my understanding of it is limited.

Anyway FWIW I do have questions about motives of folks, but I guess the answers are as easy as what has been discovered in DNA, and fingerprints. Same species but totally different.

Does that make sense ? I know......what does that have to to with handouts. Hell I dunno.

[Flying Dutchman]

It brings to mind a recent study that shows most of this nations poor are overweight. Try to figure that out...........the poorest of us are OVERWEIGHT, meaning they eat to much. Before welfare, to be poor was to be skinny and underfed. Now it is to be fed too much. Now I know there are many, many reasons for this statistic.....but in my opinion it shows just how our society has become entitlement addicted.

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by Flying Dutchman

...........the poorest of us are OVERWEIGHT, meaning they eat to much....

Too much cheap fillers like pasta, rice and potatoes and not enough fresh fruit, veggies, meat and fish.

[88-31-10]

Originally Posted by Flying Dutchman

It brings to mind a recent study that shows most of this nations poor are overweight. Try to figure that out...........the poorest of us are OVERWEIGHT, meaning they eat to much.

It's because this country has figured out how to produce 2000 calories for $4.00. Over the last several years we have managed to get the dollars/calorie ratio to below a penny. Granted, they are not "good" calories, that is they come from fat and sugar (french fries, burgers, soda, etc), but we have managed to lower the price of calories.

[Highwayman]

And while I’m at it, I remembered this column by Larry Elder from a couple of years ago. I posted it back then and the link has changed, but it’s worth posting again.

By Larry Elder
Thursday, November 17, 2005

So much for the Republican "outreach" to black voters, with only 2 percent of blacks "approving" of the president's performance.

If only blacks knew of the true history of the Democratic Party.

"Black History Month" has been observed for 29 years, yet many blacks know little to nothing about the parties' respective roles in advancing or hindering the civil rights of blacks. How many blacks know that following the Civil War, 23 blacks -- 13 of them ex-slaves -- were elected to Congress, all as Republicans? The first black Democrat was not elected to Congress until 1935, from the state of Illinois. The first black congressional Democrat from a Southern state was not elected until 1973.

Democrats, in 1854, passed the Kansas-Nebraska Act. This overturned the Missouri Compromise and allowed for the importation of slaves into the territories. Disgusted with the passage of this Act, free-soilers and anti-slavery members of the Whig and Democratic parties founded the Republican Party -- not just to stop the spread of slavery, but to eventually abolish it.

How many blacks know that blacks founded the Texas Republican Party? On July 4, 1867, in Houston, Texas, 150 blacks and 20 whites formed the party. No, not the Black Texas Republican Party, they founded the Texas Republican Party. Blacks across Southern states also founded the Republican parties in their states.

Fugitive slave laws? In 1850, Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. If merely accused of being a slave, even if the person enjoyed freedom all of his or her life (as approximately 11 percent of blacks did just before the Civil War), the person lost the right to representation by an attorney, the right to trial by jury, and the right to habeas corpus.

Emancipation? Republican President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation during the Civil War. In 1865, the 13th Amendment emancipating the slaves was passed with 100 percent of Republicans (88 of 88 in the House, 30 of 30 in the Senate) voting for it. Only 23 percent of Democrats (16 of 66 in the House, 3 of 8 in the Senate) voted for it.

Civil rights laws? In 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed giving the newly emancipated blacks full civil rights and federal guarantee of those rights, superseding any state laws. Every single voting Republican (128 of 134 -- with 6 not voting -- in the House, and 30 of 32 -- with 2 not voting -- in the Senate) voted for the 14th Amendment. Not a single Democrat (zero of 36 in the House, zero of 6 in the Senate) voted for it.

Right to vote? When Southern states balked at implementing the 14th Amendment, Congress came back and passed the 15th Amendment in 1870, guaranteeing blacks the right to vote. Every single Republican voted for it, with every Democrat voting against it.

Edit: Someone recently called the KKK a right-wing group. Pay attention here.

Ku Klux Klan? In 1872 congressional investigations, Democrats admitted beginning the Klan as an effort to stop the spread of the Republican Party and to re-establish Democratic control in Southern states. As PBS' "American Experience" notes, "In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power. The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1865." Blacks, who were all Republican at that time, became the primary targets of violence.

Jim Crow laws? Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on, in their individual states.

Civil rights in the '60s? Only 64 percent of Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act (153 for, 91 against in the House; and 46 for, 21 against in the Senate). But 80 percent of Republicans (136 for, 35 against in the House; and 27 for, 6 against in the Senate) voted for the 1964 Act.

What about the reviled, allegedly anti-black, Republican "Southern strategy"? Pat Buchanan, writing for Richard Nixon (who became the Republican Party candidate two years later) coined the term "Southern strategy." They expected the "strategy" to ultimately result in the complete marginalization of racist Southern Democrats. "We would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states' rights, human rights, small government, and a strong national defense," said Buchanan, "and leave it to the 'party of [Democratic Georgia Gov. Lester] Maddox, [1966 Democratic challenger against Spiro Agnew for Maryland governor George] Mahoney, and [Democratic Alabama Gov. George] Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice.'" And President Richard Nixon, Republican, implemented the first federal affirmative action (race-based preference) laws with goals and timetables.

So next "Black History Month," pass some of this stuff along.

Townhall.com::Black support for Bush drops to two percent::By Larry Elder

Even the Democrats gun control laws were racist. Click the link for the origin of the term “Saturday Night Specials”. The word filter won’t let me post it.

I'm Handgun Control International- Ku Klux Klan

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Flying Dutchman

It brings to mind a recent study that shows most of this nations poor are overweight. Try to figure that out...........the poorest of us are OVERWEIGHT, meaning they eat to much. Before welfare, to be poor was to be skinny and underfed. Now it is to be fed too much. Now I know there are many, many reasons for this statistic.....but in my opinion it shows just how our society has become entitlement addicted.

Some notes on poor kids and their eating....from the link I posted earlier.


As a group, America's poor are far from being chronically undernourished. The average consumption of protein, vitamins, and minerals is virtually the same for poor and middle-class children and, in most cases, is well above recommended norms. Poor children actually consume more meat than do higher-income children and have average protein intakes 100 percent above recommended levels. Most poor children today are, in fact, supernourished and grow up to be, on average, one inch taller and 10 pounds heavier that the GIs who stormed the beaches of Normandy in World War II.

While the poor are generally well-nourished, some poor families do experience hunger, meaning a temporary discomfort due to food shortages. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), 13 percent of poor families and 2.6 percent of poor children experience hunger at some point during the year. In most cases, their hunger is short-term. Eighty-nine percent of the poor report their families have "enough" food to eat, while only 2 percent say they "often" do not have enough to eat

[Army_of_One]

I just think about when the Dems cry POVERTY in the U.S. we need to know WHO they are really talking about. I asked this the other day...when they say we need to help the poor is that we need to help them...pay their cable bill? Maybe we need to help make payments on that 2nd T.V. they bought from Renta center. Perhaps we need to help them buy another DVD player or pay their cell phone bill....