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Old 01-15-2008, 06:42 PM
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:51 PM
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I think Obama is riding that "feel good" wave right now. Come November, I doubt he will win because although he is well spoken and educated......he still has no experience and comes off as very weak on any issue. Not voting for the war, while it sounds nice to his base, means diddly since his vote was not needed anyway and he knew it. His wife, who definately is one strong willed and very outspoken woman, will also be his downfall. Not to sound sexist BUT we are voting for the president, not his wife, and most voters do not want the president's wife calling any shots (hence, this will hurt Hillary since the only reason she is in politics is because of being the first wife). Do you think, honestly, that Obama's wife could do an interview and most of the audience isn't waiting for her to wave her finger, bob her head back and forth and say something like "Oh no he didn't!" I mean, honestly, that is the persona she puts off.
Whichever politician cames down hard and heavy on illegal immagration and strengthining the economy is going to win.
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:02 PM
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Obama wasn’t in the Senate in 2002 to vote on the war in the first place. It’s a bit disingenuous to claim you didn’t vote for something when you had no vote in the first place.
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:28 PM
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Something else I think about Obama's chances:

I watched O'Rielly tonight and he had talk radio hosts on the show. It was a very good show, very imformative and he held each one to the flame on their personal positions. One of the hosts, I can't remember his name, was for Obama all the way. The man was black and made it very clear that he was for Obama because he is black. He stated "I have voted for white candidates my whole life." Now I give Obama credit because he has not brought his race up as a voting point but I believe it is people like this guy that will drag it into the mud. He, the host, said he would not vote for Obama if he was a white man. (He did say he would vote for him if he was white and running against Hillary because he hates her). I think this does a disservice to Obama and it is this kind of attitude that will cost him many votes. While the blacks make up a chunk of the Democratic votes, it is the whites who make up the biggest and I doubt they will like having that kind of blatant attitude thrown in their face. It is like the Simpson case, he was found not guilty BECAUSE he was black. Also, the Hispanic community in the big cities mostly do not like blacks ( according to seeing shows on the History Channel) and I doubt they would vote in large numbers for him. Now they may not vote for any Republican, but by their not voting at all it hurts him.
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Whichever politician cames down hard and heavy on illegal immagration and strengthining the economy is going to win.
There ya go!
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There ya go!
No, it's whatever candidate has the most money. Doesn't Huckabee have the strongest message vs illegal immigration and another message about tax reform? (Fair tax!) YET he has only won one state and placed a distant 3rd in the others. It's partly about message but more so about MONEY to get the message out.

I watched the debate last night with Hillary, Obama and Edwards....I shuddered almost everytime they opened their mouths.
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Old 01-16-2008, 07:32 AM
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There ya go!
No, it's whatever candidate has the most money. Doesn't Huckabee have the strongest message vs illegal immigration and another message about tax reform? (Fair tax!) YET he has only won one state and placed a distant 3rd in the others. It's partly about message but more so about MONEY to get the message out.

I watched the debate last night with Hillary, Obama and Edwards....I shuddered almost everytime they opened their mouths.

They all let the words "we NEED universal healthcare" fall from their lips...but none of them talked about how it would be paid for or implemented. Any idea's?
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No, it's whatever candidate has the most money. Doesn't Huckabee have the strongest message vs illegal immigration and another message about tax reform? (Fair tax!) YET he has only won one state and placed a distant 3rd in the others. It's partly about message but more so about MONEY to get the message out.

I watched the debate last night with Hillary, Obama and Edwards....I shuddered almost everytime they opened their mouths.

They all let the words "we NEED universal healthcare" fall from their lips...but none of them talked about how it would be paid for or implemented. Any idea's?
I know!!!

Let BIG OIL pay for it...
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Let BIG OIL pay for it...
Big oil won’t have any money for that. Hillary already said she’s going to take their profits.
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