Obama's Plan...."yes we can"...but how do we pay for it?

[88-31-10]

[quote=Army_of_One;63617]

Originally Posted by 88-31-10

Amen. I like my drinking water pure and clean. [\QUOTE]

Not to change the subject but where do you get that kind of water in Dodge?

Only by the grace of God, I am not in Dodge or even close.
My suggestion to all that are, is to invest in a RO system.

[Army_of_One]

[quote=88-31-10;63618]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

Only by the grace of God, I am not in Dodge or even close.
My suggestion to all that are, is to invest in a RO system.

LOL...good advice.

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by 88-31-10

I think you're sadly mistaken. This is the price WE pay for electing an oilman and his crooked buddies into the White House, for raising speed limits, for driving huge inefficient vehicles, etc. There is no shortage of gasoline or oil. If there was you wouldn't be able to buy it. Have you seen any stations with with a "Sorry we're outta gas sign" displayed. Hell, I could call a bulk dealer right now and order 10,000 galoons of fuel and they'd deliver it as long as I could pay for it. Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and think for yourself for a change. Shortage my ass!!

Oil is a global market commodity. We have to out bid the rest of the world to get our supply. There is no shortage of $100 a barrel oil but there is a big shortage of $50 a barrel oil. The laws of supply and demand still apply. On the supply side it’s estimated that we have more oil than Saudi Arabia but we can’t put holes down to get it for environmental reasons.

We haven’t built any new refineries to keep up with the demand for over 30 years because of environmental reasons. Now we import refined fuels which is more expensive than refining it ourselves locally. We also have designer fuels for environmental reasons that further drive up costs.

Blaming Bush is just a cop out. Have you priced gas overseas? We have it cheap. If you don’t like the price you pay now, wait until the Democrats jack it up with another 50 cents or more per gallon tax for, you guessed it, environmental reasons.

There is nothing inherently wrong with wanting a clean environment. But there are trade offs. Fuel prices are one of them. Suck it up and pay your share.

Originally Posted by JayhawkMom

I didn't know protecting our environment was such a "price to pay".......I think there's more a price to pay if we don't.

This is about money and BIG profit......nothing else.

It sounds like you are all in favor if paying the price to save the environment until you have to open your pocketbook and pay the price.

When the oil companies stop making a profit there will be no gas to be had. Then you’ll save even more money by walking.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by JayhawkMom

I didn't know protecting our environment was such a "price to pay".......I think there's more a price to pay if we don't.

What kind of car do you drive JHM...if I may ask?!?

[88-31-10]

There's enough supply to meet the demand.
If there wasn't, you couldn't get it.
Kinda like a Wii at Christmas time.

Blaming enviornmentalists for high oil prices is absurd.
If so, then they are responsible for Big Oil's record profits.
If that's the case, then the oil companies should be funding
the enviornmentalists for the high price of oil.
That doesn't wash with me. Does it with you?

Keep drinking that Koolaid Hi-Way..............

[Army_of_One]

Environmentalists do affect the prices. If a coal plant can produce electricity at X.00 a megawatt but has to spend $$$ to make the emissions cleaner who do you think they pass that cost on to?

If the electricity produced is 90% clean and it costs millions to get it to 92% is it worth the cost for just a little gain?

Do you think if we had a capacity to refine more oil, faster the price would go down? If you say no then how come the price goes up when we lose refining capacity when a refinery goes offline?

Who makes more off of a gallon of gas? The oil companies or the gov't?

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by 88-31-10

...Keep drinking that Koolaid Hi-Way..............

I guess accusing me of drinking Kool-Aid is the closest you can get to an intelligent comment.

[88-31-10]

Originally Posted by Highwayman

I guess accusing me of drinking Kool-Aid is the closest you can get to an intelligent comment.

I guess accusing the enviormentalists for high oil prices is the closest you can get to absurdity.

[JayhawkMom]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

What kind of car do you drive JHM...if I may ask?!?

A Mini Cooper.......

Originally Posted by Highwayman

It sounds like you are all in favor if paying the price to save the environment until you have to open your pocketbook and pay the price.

When the oil companies stop making a profit there will be no gas to be had. Then you’ll save even more money by walking.

I open my pocketbook for less important things than the environment every damn day............Sorry, your scare tactics don't scare me. Wouldn't hurt more than a few Americans to start walking.....sure would solve our obesity problem.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by JayhawkMom

more than a few Americans to start walking.

Or at least drive a mini cooper. How do you get your family around in that thing? LOL