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Old 04-15-2008, 07:42 PM
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:45 PM
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Army I appreciate the passion you bring to this subject and most of your cogent thoughts on it. But I think Bubba is right. Hell man your own post states that nutjobs are all over the world. Me thinks they are the ones we should have went after.

Saddam was a no good SOB and nobody here will argue that point with you. But the crazy bastard kept all the lunatic factions in Iraq under control. They didn't pull any of the Shitie/Sunni/Kurd shit with each other cause they knew he'd kill em all. No questions asked. Now do I think that's the way to run a country? No it isn't. But I'd rather he kept them under control then trying to do it ourselves because it's a no win situation for us. Every faction over there now sees us as the enemy instead of each other. Very precarious situation. After Gulf War I, he was boxed in. With the no fly zones, sanctions, and everything in place he was a sitting duck and he and the whole world knew it. He wasn't gonna pull any shit cause he knew the weight of the world would crash about him. We should have left that situation the way it was. It was working fine. Instead, we should have focused all the blood, treasure and political capital we spent on that damn quagmire mopping up the terrorists in Afghanistan and "ALL over the world." They worry me more than that crazy bearded SOB whose every move was being watched like a hawk.
So what I extrapolate from all of that is that you think Iraq and the U.S. would be better off if Saddam was still at the helm?
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:48 PM
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Hell yes Army

Our government put him in power for a reason. As was stated ...all his neighbors were scared of him....Sometimes it takes a crazy bastard to keep idiots at bay.
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:51 PM
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So what I extrapolate from all of that is that you think Iraq and the U.S. would be better off if Saddam was still at the helm?
Me thinks we'd have 4,000+ fewer dead and billions more dollars to spend fighting terrorism.

Now I'd like for you to explain why we went there and what harm did Saddam cause the U.S. after Gulf War I? If you can't explain it, then extrapolate it or something.
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Me thinks we'd have 4,000+ fewer dead and billions more dollars to spend fighting terrorism.

Now I'd like for you to explain why we went there and what harm did Saddam cause the U.S. after Gulf War I? If you can't explain it, then extrapolate it or something.
We can argue this point all night long. I can pull up all the past threads for and against going to war with Iraq with all the evidence. I don't have time to do all of that tonight...but this topic has been exhausted on here. Some people believe Iraq is better off and some don't. No matter what evidence for or against the war was presented it would likely be ignored because people have formed their opinion.

If i produced some secret document showing that saddam HAD WMD...you would find a way or a reason to discount it because of your hatred for Bush. On the flipside you could show me something that says there was no WMD found I would tell you I don't believe that and based on conversations I have had with military people that Saddam did have wmd. Hell....most of congress believed he had them...but lets not beat that horse...it's dead and bloated.
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:25 PM
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We can argue this point all night long. I can pull up all the past threads for and against going to war with Iraq with all the evidence. I don't have time to do all of that tonight...but this topic has been exhausted on here. Some people believe Iraq is better off and some don't. No matter what evidence for or against the war was presented it would likely be ignored because people have formed their opinion.

If i produced some secret document showing that saddam HAD WMD...you would find a way or a reason to discount it because of your hatred for Bush. On the flipside you could show me something that says there was no WMD found I would tell you I don't believe that and based on conversations I have had with military people that Saddam did have wmd. Hell....most of congress believed he had them...but lets not beat that horse...it's dead and bloated.
So what I extrapolate from all of that is that you capitulate?
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So what I extrapolate from all of that is that you capitulate?
So what are you now....tha mad rappa....
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:30 PM
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So what are you now....tha mad rappa....
??????
Enlighten me again.
I don't get the reference
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??????
Enlighten me again.
I don't get the reference
Copitulate...extrapolate....sounded like you were going to bust a rhyme there for a minute eminem.....

Consequently I called you the mad rapper.....

Nevermind...lol
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:19 PM
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Copitulate...extrapolate....sounded like you were going to bust a rhyme there for a minute eminem.....

Consequently I called you the mad rapper.....

Nevermind...lol
Gotcha. I'm getting old. You may have to start typing slower.
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