What Costs More Per Year Than The Iraq War???

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WHAT COSTS MORE PER YEAR THAN THE IRAQ WAR???

Be sure to read the 14 reasons at the bottom.

Social Security Change For 2008

The United States Senate voted to extend Social Security Benefits to Illegal Aliens beginning in 2008. The following are the senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not listed, there was no voting representative.

Alaska : Stevens (R)

Arizona : McCain (R)

Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)

California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)

Colorado : Salazar (D)

Connecticut : Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)

Delaware : Biden (D) Carper (D)

Florida : Martinez (R)

Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)

Illinois : Durbin (D) Obama (D)

Indiana : Bayh (D) Lugar (R)

Iowa : Harkin (D)

Kansas : Brownback (R)

Louisiana : Landrieu (D)

Maryland : Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)

Massachusetts : Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)

Montana : Baucus (D)

Nebraska : Hagel (R)

Nevada : Reid (D)

New Jersey : Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)

New Mexico : Bingaman (D)

New York : Clinton (D) Schumer (D)

North Dakota : Dorgan (D)

Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)

Oregon : Wyden (D)

Pennsylvania : Specter (R)

Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)

South Carolina : Graham (R)

South Dakota : Johnson (D)

Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)

Washington : Cantwell (D) Murray (D)

West Virginia : Rockefeller (D), by Not Voting

Wisconsin : Feingold (D) Kohl (D)

IIlegal Aliens Cause Massive Cuts For US Seniors

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts:

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. | FAIR: Immigration and Welfare

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Center for Immigration Studies

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Center for Immigration Studies

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. CNN.com - Transcripts

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US . CNN.com - Transcripts

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...eportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.

[Army_of_One]

Notice all 3 of our illustrious presidential candidates voted yes. Wish someone would represent us.

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

Wish someone would represent us.

You've had your turn to mess it up now it's ours.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by wordsmythe

You've had your turn to mess it up now it's ours.

Wordy.....the biggest threat this country faces is Liberalism.

[wordsmythe]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

Wordy.....the biggest threat this country faces is Liberalism.

Actually the biggest threat is that you, and so many misguided individuals, believe that statement.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

Wordy.....the biggest threat this country faces is Liberalism.

Why are we at war in the middle east then, if Liberals are the real enemy? Let's go to San Francisco and have a round up! Maybe its just me, but I fear Osama Bin Laden a heck of a lot more than Nancy Pelosi.

Radical Liberals are a threat, as are radical conservitives. But if we keep seeing other Americans as the biggest threat and the biggest enemy, then it is truly a sad state of affairs. It is sad that it took something like 9/11 to unify this country, but maybe even more sad how divided we've become since then.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Bandit

Why are we at war in the middle east then, if Liberals are the real enemy? Let's go to San Francisco and have a round up! Maybe its just me, but I fear Osama Bin Laden a heck of a lot more than Nancy Pelosi.

Radical Liberals are a threat, as are radical conservitives. But if we keep seeing other Americans as the biggest threat and the biggest enemy, then it is truly a sad state of affairs. It is sad that it took something like 9/11 to unify this country, but maybe even more sad how divided we've become since then.

I'm not talking about Radical Liberals..or Radical anything. I say it's a threat because of the Liberals wanting to leave Iraq and abandon the war on terror. The Liberals want to sit down with people like the leader of Iran (who is help kill our soldiers) and talk. The Liberals that deny that there is a problem with radical islam...the same Liberals that blame OUR lifestyle and way of life for 9/11 and the terrorists attacking us. Those liberals are a threat to us because if we abandon the war on terror we will be doing it again only on our soil. I would rather have soldiers fighting over there than my family fighting here.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

I'm not talking about Radical Liberals..or Radical anything. I say it's a threat because of the Liberals wanting to leave Iraq and abandon the war on terror. The Liberals want to sit down with people like the leader of Iran (who is help kill our soldiers) and talk. The Liberals that deny that there is a problem with radical islam...the same Liberals that blame OUR lifestyle and way of life for 9/11 and the terrorists attacking us. Those liberals are a threat to us because if we abandon the war on terror we will be doing it again only on our soil. I would rather have soldiers fighting over there than my family fighting here.

The war on Terror was in Afghanistan, we brought the terror to Iraq when we invaded the country. There were no terrorists in Iraq until we provided the targets for their terror so close to their home.

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by Bubba

The war on Terror was in Afghanistan, we brought the terror to Iraq when we invaded the country. There were no terrorists in Iraq until we provided the targets for their terror so close to their home.

We have beat this dead horse before Bubba...we can both post arguments either way. Furthermore if you think that the terrorists are only in Afghanistan then I don't know what to tell you. They are located ALL over the world and probably quite a few right here in our great United States. We know it's not hard to get here illegally. We are fighting the war on terror world wide and we have soldiers in places that a lot of people haven't heard of.

[88-31-10]

Originally Posted by Army_of_One

We have beat this dead horse before Bubba...we can both post arguments either way. Furthermore if you think that the terrorists are only in Afghanistan then I don't know what to tell you. They are located ALL over the world and probably quite a few right here in our great United States. We know it's not hard to get here illegally. We are fighting the war on terror world wide and we have soldiers in places that a lot of people haven't heard of.

Army I appreciate the passion you bring to this subject and most of your cogent thoughts on it. But I think Bubba is right. Hell man your own post states that nutjobs are all over the world. Me thinks they are the ones we should have went after.

Saddam was a no good SOB and nobody here will argue that point with you. But the crazy bastard kept all the lunatic factions in Iraq under control. They didn't pull any of the Shitie/Sunni/Kurd shit with each other cause they knew he'd kill em all. No questions asked. Now do I think that's the way to run a country? No it isn't. But I'd rather he kept them under control then trying to do it ourselves because it's a no win situation for us. Every faction over there now sees us as the enemy instead of each other. Very precarious situation. After Gulf War I, he was boxed in. With the no fly zones, sanctions, and everything in place he was a sitting duck and he and the whole world knew it. He wasn't gonna pull any shit cause he knew the weight of the world would crash about him. We should have left that situation the way it was. It was working fine. Instead, we should have focused all the blood, treasure and political capital we spent on that damn quagmire mopping up the terrorists in Afghanistan and "ALL over the world." They worry me more than that crazy bearded SOB whose every move was being watched like a hawk.