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Old 07-24-2008, 04:33 AM
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Heard that same line about W, 8 years ago.
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It's going to be so great when President Obama shows us all how GREAT a politician can be.
I agree, and that's what is scaring the hell out of some of us. I have no doubt Obama is a great politician, what we need is a great president. Our problem all along has been we have a lot of great politicians.
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:36 AM
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Well don't feel alone, I do not either! Would it not be great if we were to have a President that actually was a "GOOD" one? ?
What exactly would constitute a "good" president in your mind Craig?
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:19 PM
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What exactly would constitute a "good" president in your mind Craig?
Perhaps I can answer your question Ao1:

Answer: Not McCain! Quite simple when you think about it. It's the "thinking" that causes problems for some people!
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Perhaps I can answer your question Ao1:

Answer: Not McCain! Quite simple when you think about it. It's the "thinking" that causes problems for some people!
My main concern is that throughout his political career, McCain has demonstrated that he listens. I haven't yet seen that of Obama. So, if we vote McCain, we have the collective knowledge of all his advisers - some older, some younger, but all experienced. If we vote Obama, we get young, inexperienced, but well spoken. And listens to nobody. Yeah. Not a contest.
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But did you see the crowd he drew in Berlin? 200,000+ people. European countries love him. The U.S. can't take on the world alone forever, in my opinion. If we can elect somebody that can change the view of our great nation to other nations, then they might get in there and fight the next fight with us instead of bitching about how we do things.
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But did you see the crowd he drew in Berlin? 200,000+ people. European countries love him. The U.S. can't take on the world alone forever, in my opinion. If we can elect somebody that can change the view of our great nation to other nations, then they might get in there and fight the next fight with us instead of bitching about how we do things.
To respond to this I defer to a piece I found in another forum...


"All of you who heard or saw on the news that there was a huge showing of people today in Berlin just to hear him talk should know something that they are not reporting on the news.

Before the presumptive Democrat nominee spoke to a crowd in Berlin today, two popular German acts -- reggae artist Patrice and rock band Reamonn -- entertained the gathering audience. This is the reason that there were so many people there....they were not there just to hear this fool talk about nothing. I just watched ABC world news and they said absolutely nothing about the real reason there were so many people there. They just made out like they all came to see him and it pissed me off to no end!! ..."


Would this explain his alleged popularity with the young voter?
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250,000 Berliners go berserk for Obama ... and he hits Britain this afternoon

The Daily mail
By Allan Hall
Last updated at 11:09 AM on 25th July 2008

In the end Barack Obama had no need to break into German to leave the 200,000 crowd roaring with delight.

The man the German media has dubbed the 'Black JFK' stuck to English - but his welcome in Berlin last night stood comparison with the rapturous reception given to John F. Kennedy's famous 1963 'Ich bin ein Berliner' address at the height of the Cold War.

Mr Obama opened his speech at the Victory Column in the capital's Tiergarten park with the words: 'I come to Berlin as so many of my countrymen have come before, although tonight I speak to you not as a candidate for president of the United States, but as a proud citizen of the United States and a proud citizen of the world.'

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German triumph: Barack Obama stakes his claim to be the new JKF as 250,00 delirious Berliners greet him like a rock star

250,000 Berliners go berserk for Obama ... and he hits Britain this afternoon | Mail Online


Video: Barack Obama stakes claim as new JFK the day before arriving in Britain

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Allan Hall, in Berlin 25/07/2008

250,000 Berliners go berserk ..and he'll hit Britain today

A triumphant Barack Obama yesterday staked his claim to be the new JFK - as 250,000 delirious Berliners greeted him like a rock star.

Obama, who arrives in Britain tonight, was cheered and applauded by the vast flag-waving crowd who flocked to the German capital's Tiergarten Park to hear him outline his vision of the future. The 46-year-old Democratic presidential candidate did not disappoint them - giving a virtuoso performance. He began by saying: "People of Berlin, people of the world, this is our moment. This is our time.

"Although tonight I speak to you not as a candidate for president but as a citizen - a proud citizen of the United States and a fellow citizen of the world."

Video: Barack Obama stakes claim as new JFK the day before arriving in Britain - mirror.co.uk
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As i recall
adolph hitler attracted some rather large crowds in germany
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adolph hitler attracted some rather large crowds in germany
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So did Ronald Reagan........
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