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Hitler's power and fascination in speaking lay almost wholly in his ability to sense what a given audience wanted to hear and then to manipulate his theme in such a way that he would arouse the emotions of the crowd. I do believe that Obama has this same ability.

This is all in keeping with Hitler's own understanding of mass psychology as given in MEIN KAMPF where he says:

"The psyche of the broad masses does not respond to anything weak or half-way. Like a woman, whose spiritual sensitiveness is determined less by abstract reason than by an indefinable emotional longing for fulfilling power and who, for that reason, prefers to submit to the strong rather than the weakling - the mass, too, prefers the ruler to a pleader."

As a speaker, Hitler had a powerful influence on the common run of German people. History reports his meetings were always crowded and by the time he got through speaking he had completely numbed the minds of his listeners to the point where they were willing to believe almost anything he said.

I find it somewhat disturbing that Obama has the same effect on people. Unlike Hitler, Obama takes it one step further in that he is always dressed to kill. He appreciates the importance of a pleasing appearance in this digital age. Hitler did not.
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I find it troubling that Obama would snub wounded troops because he couldn’t turn the visit into a photo op.

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At 1:42 p.m. of its "Obama Live Ticker" -- essentially livblogging Obama's day in Germany -- Der Spiegel writes, "SPIEGEL ONLINE has learned that Obama has cancelled a planned short visit to the Rammstein and Landstuhl US military bases in the southwest German state of Rhineland-Palatinate. The visits were planned for Friday. 'Barack Obama will not be coming to us,' a spokesperson for the US military hospital in Landstuhl announced. 'I don't know why.' Shortly before the same spokeswoman had announced a planned visit by Obama.
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A U.S. military official tells NBC News they were making preparations for Sen. Barack Obama to visit wounded troops at the Landstuhl Medical Center at Ramstein, Germany on Friday, but "for some reason the visit was called off."

One military official who was working on the Obama visit said because political candidates are prohibited from using military installations as campaign backdrops, Obama's representatives were told, "he could only bring two or three of his Senate staff member, no campaign officials or workers." In addition,
"Obama could not bring any media. Only military photographers would be permitted to record Obama's visit."

The official said "We didn't know why" the request to visit the wounded troops was withdrawn. "He (Obama) was more than welcome. We were all ready for him."
What's not on Obama's schedule... - First Read - msnbc.com
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Heck, the free Bratwursts and Beer probably helped too!
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My main concern is that throughout his political career, McCain has demonstrated that he listens.
Yea, but the problem is he doesn't remember!
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Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said “Iraq” on Monday when he apparently meant “Afghanistan”, adding to a string of mixed-up word choices that is giving ammunition to the opposition.

Just in the past three weeks, McCain has also mistaken "Somalia" for "Sudan," and even football’s Green Bay Packers for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Ironically, the errors have been concentrated in what should be his area of expertise: foreign affairs.

-“Germany” for “Russia” - A YouTube clip from last year memorializes McCain referring to Vladimir Putin of Russia - following a trip to Germany - as “President Putin of Germany.”

-This spring, McCain said troops in Iraq were “down to pre-surge levels” when in fact there were 20,000 more troops than when the surge policy began.

-Also this spring, McCain twice appeared to mistake Sunnis and Shiites, two branches of Islam that split violently.

-In Phoenix earlier this month, McCain referred to "Czechoslovakia,” which has been divided since Jan. 1, 1993, into the Czech Republic and Slovakia. He also referred to Czechoslovakia during a debate in November and a radio show in April.
It's time old John retired to his rocking chair with a nice warm rug and a mug of malted milk - he's done his bit, it's time to say, "good-night John".
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Like a woman, whose spiritual sensitiveness is determined less by abstract reason than by an indefinable emotional longing for fulfilling power and who, for that reason, prefers to submit to the strong rather than the weakling - the mass, too, prefers the ruler to a pleader."
I think history has shown that Hitler was up.
Speaking for myself I was always attracted to weak men.....so I could mother them and be the boss....

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Value Pack is really scrapping the bottom of the barrel in his attempt to discredit Barack Obama by comparing his oratory with that of Hitler!
A truer comparison would be with JFK or Winston Churchill.
Of course that doesn't fit his agenda!
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except obaqma lacks the experience of either churchill or kennedy.
binky the world loves obama because they see him as a soft president who won't rock the boat.
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binky the world loves obama because they see him as a soft president who won't rock the boat.
I think they're find out he isn't "soft", some people will be surprised!
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Speaking for myself I was always attracted to weak men.....so I could mother them and be the boss....

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Weezie, you still got those whips, chains, and leathers??
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I did not start the comparison to Hitler but once started I would never have considered Obama a Churchill or a Kennedy. Churchill was well prepared for his role in history.

We all learn from our mistakes and are wiser and more experienced for the lesson. Both Churchill and Kennedy learned from their mistakes and were better prepared for their respective offices. I personally think that Kennedy could have had a few more mistakes in his life prior to his becoming President.

Lets face it, in todays world, JFK could never be President. John Kennedy did not think that the rules applied to him and he did whatever he could get away with, including getting into the U.S. Navy without a physical examination, since there was no way he could have passed any standard medical examination.

He sensed, correctly, that if he did not participate in WW II, he was not going to have much of a political life. He wanted into the public life and did it the hard way. He worked for it.

To have such a man with frail health as his was as your commander could be dangerous; the John Kennedy who got to be commander of a PT-109 never should have been there. However, when PT-109 was run down by a Japanese warship, the lieutenant who never should have been there swam six miles holding the belt, (in his teeth)of a badly burned man thus saving his life.

He then went back into the dark ocean to try to save others. He lost his boat, but saved most of his crew. Must of learned a lot from such experiences. That man would get my vote.

How does it go? McCain has forgotton more about life's lessons than Obama will ever learn.

I found out long ago that there are no shortcuts to any place worth going. That is why I am not voting for Obama, I don't believe there are any shortcuts to experience.
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