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Old 08-25-2008, 12:24 PM
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High Noon in Duel for White House

Today is a Bank Holiday in Britain and I've spent the day catching up on yesterday's papers, in particular The Sunday Times.

There is a very interesting article by Andrew Sullivan which I think is worth reading. Basically he's saying that the "phoney war" is over as the candidates square up for the most compelling contest in a generation.

In case some of you think that this is an article bashing the old fella, it isn't, it simply gives a balanced and interesting examination of both candidates:

High noon in duel for White House - Times Online
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:31 PM
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I think he addressed some things unfairly. McCain doesn't know how many houses he owns for a couple of reasons. He doesn't live in some of them and some of them are his wife's I believe. When a person is in the Congress they can't know about all of their investments. It's some act, I forget what it is...but the stuff goes in a blind trust type deal with someone else managing it for them. That would be like asking him how much stock he owns or such. He shouldn't know.

Obama drew a lot of "German's to the streets" because they had a concert there before he spoke to get the stadium full.
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:31 PM
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Now wait a minute Binky we know who you support in this so does it simply give a balanced and interesting examination of both candidates according to your opinion? lol j/k with you sorry couldn't resist.
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Did you read the article Army?
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Binkster, you own a bank?? How about a small loan? I will pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today!
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I read this article and I honestly thought it was fair and balanced. And I say that most sincerely.
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Made in the USA - Binkster, you own a bank?? How about a small loan? I will pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today
What collateral have you got MiiUSA? - how about giving me your car keys and I'll drive you to the hamburger joint everyday until you repay the loan?
Interest, you ask? $1 a week for every $5 borrowed with me having your car as collateral until you repay the total loan, seems fair to me.
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At least Nancy doesn't have anything to gain from this personally.......errrrr wait...DOES SHE?

Pelosi, Pickens plan to pick your pocket

Not surprisingly, the nation's largest provider of natural gas for transportation, Clean Energy Fuels Corporation, or CLNE, has a great deal to gain from the adoption of Pickens' fuel strategy and the passage of Proposition 10. In fact, according to the California Secretary of State website, CLNE has contributed $3,247,250 to supporting Proposition 10's passage.

CLNE, however, was formerly known as Pickens Fuel after its primary investor, T. Boone Pickens.

While Pickens touts a plan in the name of environmentalism that will also line his company's pockets, a #dontgo investigation has revealed that another environmental champion and backer of Proposition 10 has also invested in CLNE: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California.

According to the investigation, Pelosi purchased $50,000-$100,000 in CLNE stock on May 25, 2007, apparently on its initial public offering.

Now the House speaker stands to make a large profit on her reported 22,000 shares of CLNE if she and other public figures can persuade the people of California to vote for Proposition 10 in the name of renewable energy and clean, alternative fuels.


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I think he addressed some things unfairly. McCain doesn't know how many houses he owns for a couple of reasons. He doesn't live in some of them and some of them are his wife's I believe. When a person is in the Congress they can't know about all of their investments. It's some act, I forget what it is...but the stuff goes in a blind trust type deal with someone else managing it for them. That would be like asking him how much stock he owns or such. He shouldn't know.

Obama drew a lot of "German's to the streets" because they had a concert there before he spoke to get the stadium full.
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Presidents put their holdings in blind trusts, lowly Congress critters do not.

The question about houses that McCain was asked was how many he and his wife owned. Since he and his wife keep separate finances there is no reason for him to know all the details of her investments. Some of those houses are titled to her companies. Some are occupied by family members.

The McCains themselves have a condo in Washington, a condo in Phoenix and a ranch.
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AoO's post said, "When a person is in the Congress they can't know about all of their investments. It's some act, I forget what it is...but the stuff goes in a blind trust type deal with someone else managing it for them."

Is he incorrect?
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