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Old 04-01-2008, 08:14 PM
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I want KU to win but I think they will lose by double digits to UNC.
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:35 PM
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UM...NO!

It wouldn't be a step down..it would be a flight of stairs down. Just because OSU had a couple of good years a few years back does not make them an elite program.
But what makes an ELITE program??? Answer=the coach. If Self went, do you not think that players would be attracted to him at OSU?
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:48 PM
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But what makes an ELITE program??? Answer=the coach. If Self went, do you not think that players would be attracted to him at OSU?
I respectively disagree. The coach has something to do with a program becoming elite but elite to ME means that you have a long history of winning. You can't build a tradition in a couple of years having a good coach. If Roy Williams went to Baylor that wouldn't qualify Baylor as one of the college elite programs. Elite to me means you have a tradition/habit of winning, you can get recruits based on who you are and you probably have a good coach. Again...I believe these are the historically elite programs...

Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke and UCLA....there are a couple more that an argument could be made for but if you are coaching at one of these schools name one school a person would want to leave one of these schools to go coach at?
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:53 PM
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I would bet you any amount you want that homeboy doesn't go to OSU...or we could bet lunch...lol
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:21 AM
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But what makes an ELITE program??? Answer=the coach. If Self went, do you not think that players would be attracted to him at OSU?
If that was the case, Texas Tech would be considered an elite program when Bobby Knight came to town. Don't think that's the case. An elite program is built on a tradition of winning.

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Old 04-02-2008, 08:06 AM
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EXACTLY...and to do that a good coach has to be in the mix but like 88 said...just a good coach does not make an elite program.
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:09 PM
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Either way, I look at it like this:

KU Basketball did just fine before Bill Self, and KU Basketball will do just fine after Bill Self........Lots of folks thought the program would fall after Roy left and look, the final four.

KU is a premier basketball school.....lots of quality coaches would DIE to be able to go there.

I'm not scared, one way or the other.

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I want KU to win but I think they will lose by double digits to UNC.
I'm with you Army......Don't know about double digits, but I think we will have to be perfect to beat UNC.....
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:01 PM
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What the hell, you a KU traitor, bad. LOL, JK.

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