Psss..t, let's meet in the Alley....

[lurker]

Property taxation was a good vehicle during the settlement era of westward expansion and limited mobility. Today's taxation vehicle should be based on cash flow. Wages, Interest, Rents and Profits should also be included.

We're heading that way with the pending legislation that removes certain business property from taxation. We should remove all property from taxation at the same time.

[TheWizzard]

Just because " Mister Fireman", was not putting out a fire does not mean he was NOT working on CITY time. Just being there available for a fire or other emergency is his job and seems to me like he was doing it. Again it cracks me up that the person that did the RIGHT thing is the one that catches the most %$#&.

Originally Posted by littlemom

A lot of this could be cleared up very quickly. What time of Day (the Alley isn't open during the day) on the (day in question Jan 6). They have activities for youth at night and there is age restrictions on some nights because my son has gone there. The three in question have nothing in common with each other than their school board positions.( I usually don't hang out with people I don't have anything in common with) Nothing was reported in Dodge about the incident until this board and the Hutch paper made it public and as a taxpayer and a registered voter I want to know. We need people to tell what they see. I take my break outside because some days it's just way to nice to stay behind walls. Thanks Robert for the info.

Hey MOM Just a thought....Remember the election when the tooth fairy and the other two stoogges got elected?????
now just who was it that got in on the coat tails of the tooth fairy??
winters spent very little on the campaign whos did??
"Very little in common"????get your head out of the oven come out of the kitchen and smell the roses!!!!!!

[TexKan]

Originally Posted by TheWizzard

Just because " Mister Fireman", was not putting out a fire does not mean he was NOT working on CITY time. Just being there available for a fire or other emergency is his job and seems to me like he was doing it. Again it cracks me up that the person that did the RIGHT thing is the one that catches the most %$#&.

If he is working - ie cleaning the firetruck, checking hoses, cooking, training, playing cards with other firemen, sleeping, checking his gear, all those are things firemen get "paid" to do. Keeping an eye on who's talking to who, who's going in the Alley, and then standing around for 45 min to time how long they were in the building just isn't what he gets paid to do. Sorry. I don't have anything against Robert............ Public servants don't get paid to play PI on taxpayors time. The cops get paid for that when a law is broken. Maybe he would have been better off to call someone to come "keep an eye out" that wasn't working.

I think you are missing my point but that's ok........ trust me there are plenty of folks on either side of an opinion....... I just think ya should be working when ya are being paid......... UNLESS you are on a lunch break. Firemen get paid for 24 hrs usually 2 days at a time. They don't go home for a reason.... that reason is not to allow them to play PI........

Robert is not the bad guy here but I'm not convinced there were any bad guys. I think there was a paid city employee acting like a private citizen making an accusation without facts to support it. I would think any employee needs to be a citizen on his own time. It's just not what he's paid for that's all..... No harm meant to Robert. He would have been better off to make an anonomoious tip to the DA.......... I think if ya don't want to be scrutinized - don't use your name............ there was and is not gonna be a "hero" award on this one for anyone. I woulda kept my name secret till I knew what I saw is what really happened.

[Bronco-Fan]

Originally Posted by TexKan

If he is working - ie cleaning the firetruck, checking hoses, cooking, training, playing cards with other firemen, sleeping, checking his gear, all those are things firemen get "paid" to do. Keeping an eye on who's talking to who, who's going in the Alley, and then standing around for 45 min to time how long they were in the building just isn't what he gets paid to do. Sorry. I don't have anything against Robert............ Public servants don't get paid to play PI on taxpayors time. The cops get paid for that when a law is broken. Maybe he would have been better off to call someone to come "keep an eye out" that wasn't working.

I think you are missing my point but that's ok........ trust me there are plenty of folks on either side of an opinion....... I just think ya should be working when ya are being paid......... UNLESS you are on a lunch break. Firemen get paid for 24 hrs usually 2 days at a time. They don't go home for a reason.... that reason is not to allow them to play PI........

Robert is not the bad guy here but I'm not convinced there were any bad guys. I think there was a paid city employee acting like a private citizen making an accusation without facts to support it. I would think any employee needs to be a citizen on his own time. It's just not what he's paid for that's all..... No harm meant to Robert. He would have been better off to make an anonomoious tip to the DA.......... I think if ya don't want to be scrutinized - don't use your name............ there was and is not gonna be a "hero" award on this one for anyone. I woulda kept my name secret till I knew what I saw is what really happened.

Very well put TexKan, remember folks What one person sees another person may see totally different. Just ask T Lee and Mike N.. LOL

[Bronco-Fan]

Originally Posted by littlemom

A lot of this could be cleared up very quickly. What time of Day (the Alley isn't open during the day) on the (day in question Jan 6). They have activities for youth at night and there is age restrictions on some nights because my son has gone there. The three in question have nothing in common with each other than their school board positions.( I usually don't hang out with people I don't have anything in common with) Nothing was reported in Dodge about the incident until this board and the Hutch paper made it public and as a taxpayer and a registered voter I want to know. We need people to tell what they see. I take my break outside because some days it's just way to nice to stay behind walls. Thanks Robert for the info.

Littlemom: How do WE know that THEY don't have anything in common. WE don't know that maybe THEY were discussing the weather, most people the last couple of months seems that is all they want to talk about, maybe THEY were discussing the Race Track, Civic Center, or when each of them were going to a movie, or the sitting arrangements at the Country Club, or golfing.list goes on and on. and maybe WE should watch our children more carefully, or maybe WE should call the police when WE think WE seen some one breaking a window, or heard a noise out in the street but didn't want to be seen looking out our window. Now to Robert maybe Robert could/should have called another board memeber, or Gloria.

[TexKan]

Awww Man!!!??? - Now we are gettin "gloria" in the mix........ geesh just what I need another person mixed up in this!!!....... Lord before this is over 1/2 the town should / could / would have been in on this little 45 minute disaster......... Oh brother!!!!.............. LOL LOL

Don't tell me bout Gloria - As it is I'm tryin to sort out 3 members out of 7, the DA, Robert and his fire crew........ I'm pretty busy with all them.......LOL

[K C Muffin]

Keeps life interesting, though, doesn't it???

A marriage counselor once told me (and a past significant other....) that when you fight, you should only fight about one thing. When the subject changes or something else is brought into the mix, the fight is over to be rescheduled for another time when both can stay on topic.

I always thought that was good advice, cuz I couldn't keep more than one subject straight at a time. This is the same way. When you run out of reasons to believe or disbelieve, you shore up your opinion any way you can -by bringing up past crap. We should all know better - should I have my marriage counselor come in and give us all tips? Cuz this is getting way too confusing for me. I'm having to page back through old threads to remember what was going on...............

[Lone Gunman]

I think this thread should be shot in the head.

[Bronco-Fan]

Originally Posted by TexKan

Awww Man!!!??? - Now we are gettin "gloria" in the mix........ geesh just what I need another person mixed up in this!!!....... Lord before this is over 1/2 the town should / could / would have been in on this little 45 minute disaster......... Oh brother!!!!.............. LOL LOL

Don't tell me bout Gloria - As it is I'm tryin to sort out 3 members out of 7, the DA, Robert and his fire crew........ I'm pretty busy with all them.......LOL

TexKan Point well put, and that is the Point where does it end. or just maybe started up again on a new day, when people get bored. The matter of the three board members in the Alley is being taken care I sure. Everybody have a great day. Stop and smell the roses