Illegal ingrates. A teacher's perspective.

[Army_of_One]

If anyone ever would like to visit the high school let me know...you can go up there and eat lunch with me and watch what it's like at the school....watch the kids walk by the teachers with OBVIOUS clothing violations and nothing be said. There are kids that tell the teachers in their class to "F off" with virtually no repurcussion because the teacher does not have control.

[Detector]

watch the kids walk by the teachers with OBVIOUS clothing violations and nothing be said. There are kids that tell the teachers in their class to "F off" with virtually no repurcussion because the teacher does not have control.

You are absolutely right. Now sometime ask a teach why they don't bother trying to get kids punished for behaving like ingrates.

[justmeindc]

Army, with all due respect, how often are you in a classroom? I know you occasionally eat lunch up there and go in to request records on the kids you are recruting......but when are you in the classroom? I'm not saying there isn't disrespect, etc., but I work there - everyday - and I sure don't see all the "action" you claim to see. Can you also say (or is it not as "post-worthy") that you see a lot of great kids who are a real asset to society. I have worked amongst high school students for the last 15 years or so and I am saddened by the bad wrap our students get, when the majority are smart, talented, goal-minded kids. I wish you could be more open minded and see the positive in our youth.

[Zeb]

Let's not forget majority is just over 50%. What to do about the other 49%.?

[TexKan]

Bad behavior is so much more memorable than good "normal" what you would expect to see behavior.

There should be no excuse for students being allowed to tell a teacher to **** off and then be back in class......... ever!! One of the problems is that too many people are willing to excuse the behavior - no boundaries - so if the majority of students are model students - why are they bogged down by the trouble makers? These model students deserve better and should be able to recieve better from the school. Quit wasting time on the trouble makers and invest in those that are willing to do the work! Now that's what I call fair!

Lord our taxes pay for alternative this and that......... use it and keep the trouble makers where they can cause trouble with each other rather than those trying to make a future for themselves. If the alternative students are given the chance and they screw it up over and over - it's time for them to not get another chance for awhile. Some kids are a waste of time - tough thing to admit - but it is true.

[Made in the USA]

They can house the students that don't want to learn or cooperate in the old jail, once they get the new one built!! Maybe a little "drill Seargent" with discipline, would help change their attitudes!

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by justmeindc

Army, with all due respect, how often are you in a classroom? I know you occasionally eat lunch up there and go in to request records on the kids you are recruting......but when are you in the classroom? I'm not saying there isn't disrespect, etc., but I work there - everyday - and I sure don't see all the "action" you claim to see. Can you also say (or is it not as "post-worthy") that you see a lot of great kids who are a real asset to society. I have worked amongst high school students for the last 15 years or so and I am saddened by the bad wrap our students get, when the majority are smart, talented, goal-minded kids. I wish you could be more open minded and see the positive in our youth.

I DO see A LOT of great kids but that not what this post is about. My wife worked there for a bit as a para and some of the stuff she told me that happened that she seen and heard the kids talking about (in spanish) was not so pleasant. As a matter of fact she didn't feel safe in that environment. I maybe ought not to be saying this as a recruiter but you say the majority of the kids are smart, talented and goal minded....well the tests say otherwise. USD is barely above 50% proficiency in Math. That's the entire school district and I would be willing to bet the HS is lower. Being proficient means you understand it enough to use it but does not make you bright. A majority of the kids at the HS are not smart, talented goal minded kids (in my opinion). While those kids DO exist in numbers they are not the majority. I understand that a few bad apples can give everyone a bad rap but again I believe it's not the rosy picture you paint. Let me ask you this since you are probably a teacher. Do you think there are drugs in your school and if so how much? Do you think there are weapons being brought to school either inside or in the parking lot...and if so what type? Just curious.

[SGT T.]

AOO,
I think I can find some extra body armor here for ya, for the next time you go there for lunch.

[K C Muffin]

Yeah, Sarge - he just might need it for the next time he steps out of his house....but I believe what he says. There are just too many levels of understanding there. They just can't all be taught the same thing and ever hope to understand it. That's what's skewing the numbers. I don't think
Army is trying to put the student body down as a whole, just trying to get us to see the whole picture. There are some very bright kids there (my niece is one of the grads that's pretty damned bright herself!), but there are lots that still need to be in a remedial class. Not because they're stupid, but because they've missed all the classes they needed earlier - either because they weren't there or because they couldn't understand the language.

[dustinwadams5]

I agree on the education level there at Dodge I went three years of high school to 1A school and moved to Dodge City my senior year and all I had to take at the high school to graduate was Government and Economics where if I had stayed at my old school I would have had a full schedule worth of classes to graduate.