School Uniforms

[littlemom]

I think if you are caught taking someone else's things, or inflicting pain upon another person you are heading for trouble and it needs dealt with. Maybe bad seed was the wrong word but being late for school I don't think is that big a deal if there is a reason and good enough. I went on my break at 10 this morning and saw a young man walking with just a windbreaker and I gave him a ride because he had no vehicle but he was walking to work. I will be going back after work to give him a leather coat that I had laying around. My son was late to school for 3 days because when I got ill I had to depend on others to take care of him. They wanted him to stay after school, it wasn't going to happen. Our children count on us as parents to get them where they need to go. I count on the school administrators and teachers to give him an education but also protect him while he is there. You said uniforms will help with disciplan not if there isn't a reaction to actions. The teachers know and you can tell by the way they look and act. An apology letter doesn't cut it, In the daily globe we let a man off with probation for assault on a 13 year old. I just don't think clothes are going to solve the problem and why did the Middle School get a 233,000 survelience system if we don't do more to stop the problems. It's not easier on the parents because I'm a parent and it's hard sometimes to find his size and then you have to special order and that's an expense I don't want. As far as class well when does the hard fact come into play that there will always be someone with more money and more things than you and that's the way the world is. If you think you have it bad there's always someone that has it worse. Learn to deal.

[TexKan]

It's been proven time and time again that uniforms work - I didn't make the rules - I just follow them. Course I'm military and law enforcement and medical so I pretty much follow the rules and believe in rules and uniforms. Uniforms are much cheaper than trying to buy designer clothes so kids feel equal.

My kids didn't have uniforms but as a nurse I can tell ya - they are easier! Uniforms tell you who does what, some students could pass as teachers cause the 13 yo look like teachers and act like teachers if they can get away with it. It is what the name implies.......... it imparts uniformity to a crowd........

Take it to the school board and try to get it reversed if you feel that strongly about it - good luck with whatever happens!

[Army_of_One]

Originally Posted by littlemom

I just don't think clothes are going to solve the problem

Of course not...it's just one step towards solving the problem.

But you can't sit here and tell me that super short skirts, baggy pants, large jackets that can conceal about anything, clothes related to gangs and such are NOT a distraction......

[wordsmythe]

CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Metro & Tri-State :: Board gives girl green light for tinted hair

January 12, 2007
The Chicago Heights principal who told a student with red hair highlights to go home has been overruled.
The school board that oversees Sandridge School voted Wednesday night to allow dyed hair -- providing it's not a distraction.

And 13-year-old Holli Boam was allowed to return to school Thursday without having to get rid of the highlights.

"I'm good with it," said Principal Leroy Coleman of the school board's decision.

Coleman said he was simply trying to be "proactive" and avoid taunting from other students when he made the decision that Holli should go home and rinse out the hair dye.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by TexKan

...Uniforms are much cheaper than trying to buy designer clothes so kids feel equal.

My kids didn't have uniforms but as a nurse I can tell ya - they are easier! Uniforms tell you who does what, some students could pass as teachers cause the 13 yo look like teachers and act like teachers if they can get away with it. It is what the name implies.......... it imparts uniformity to a crowd.....

I agree, a uniform lets the child be judged for his/her personality and actions instead of what kind of clothes and sneakers they or their parents can afford.

[Detector]

My only evidence is my generation. We had no uniforms and not near the problems they have today between kids. If uniforms are meant to make them feel equal, it's not working.

[jeezeweeze]

Originally Posted by Detector

My only evidence is my generation. We had no uniforms and not near the problems they have today between kids. If uniforms are meant to make them feel equal, it's not working.

We had no uniforms either nor did we go to school half naked...that distracts the rest of students ....like it or not......If you chose to not follow the rules and regs..... you could receive swats, you were kept in line because you could and would be humiliated.... plus the fact that when your parents were notified there was hell to pay ....and that eliminated alot of the problems....

I'm for uniforms..... there again....military background....


HOOOOOOAAHHHHHHH

[Detector]

I am post military myself. The military saves money by having matching uniforms.

The problem today is parents let their kids go to school "half naked", baggy pants down to their ankles and gang colors. Why? because some parents feel it's a kids right to "express themselves." So because of liberal thinking we once again are forced to make changes to compensate.

Lets see now. We dress our kids all the same so "they feel better about themselves", as if it keeps a kid from knowing they are poor, and send them to school where they learn about how most of our greatest people in history came from a poor beginning.

News Flash! there are poor people. Uniforms aren't fooling anyone. What needs to be taught is money doesn't make the person. They need to be taught that kid wearing the worn-out jeans just may be your boss someday. Respect and accountability, not cookie cutter kids expected to believe we're all the same.

How about a good dose of reality. We're not all the same. They can handle it. I did.

[Made in the USA]

I'm afraid that I have to side with Detector on this one. I too am ex-military, hell I was even part of ROTC in college--and that was when the going was rough unless you had long hair and beards!! We protect our kids too much, so that they don't learn "reality"! Protect the kid all the way to "when they are supposed to be adults and we turn loose of the apron strings", and they go "crazy wild" alot of times! I know plenty of kids like this! In real life, this is the way things are, so you might as well get used to it. There are people with more money than you, there are people with less money than you, and each one is an individual and unique in their own way. When we were in school, we had a dress code, and it was enforced. If you wore something inappropriate by the rules, then you were sent home to change. If this continued to happen, then you were expelled from school for awhile. This is a way to teach kids that they have to follow rules. This is another "life experience"! If they want to wear uniforms, then they can go to private schools, military schools, or they can join the Army and AOO can discipline them!!

[TexKan]

I just don't see the uniforms bein tossed out - too many bangers too little discipline. Things aren't like they used to be and teachers got thier hands full just trying to teach the "test" down here. Most parents where kids wear uniforms - like it - altho there are schools that uniforms are not used. It's the parents that take it to the school board that make the difference - obviously which ever parent is concerned needs to get involved and get a feel for how other parents feel and strive to make the change. Good luck on whatever happens

I still think the cutest "uniform" I ever ran into was a feller I met (years ago in dodge) at a New Years eve party in a diaper and a pacifier............... didn't matter to me if he had money or not!...............I opened up a day care without question!